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 Posted: Sun Jan 22nd, 2012 02:26 am

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End Piracy, Not Liberty


I don't give a rats arse whether they've put this on hold or not but it is very important if you want them to take notice to sign this and circulate to everyone including family friends and other websites you  go to.  I've done so my self.

https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

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 Posted: Sun Jan 22nd, 2012 01:41 pm

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Dragonflygurl wrote: End Piracy, Not Liberty


I don't give a rats arse whether they've put this on hold or not but it is very important if you want them to take notice to sign this and circulate to everyone including family friends and other websites you  go to.  I've done so my self.

https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

I have signed the petition and took part in the internet blackout on Wednesday by blacking out my blog.  The way the bill is written Lexxverse would be at risk of being shut down though the legislation.  Every joke, video and photo share etc would qualify as copyright infringement.

The way the bill is written you would need to permission of the original source to post/share anything that is not your own original content.  Meaning you must take the photo or write the joke yourself.  Every photo of anyone involved in Lexx would mean directly gaining their permission and or the permission of whoever owns the rights to Lexx yourself to share anything.

What the fools in the entertainment industry who are lobbying for this bill fail to realize is that sites like Lexxverse keep interest fixed on there productions.  Most true independents are dead set against SOPA/PIPA.  It's social sharing of content that is the backbone of success for the independent musical artists and filmmakers.  When they can't get backing from major Hollywood players, Hollywood targets a film to fail, refuses to give an artist a recording contract The independents can use the internet needed to create publicity to give their work a chance. 




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Some interesting read on the megaupload issue.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120120/15060817494/busta-rhymes-backs-megaupload-says-record-labels-are-real-criminals.shtml



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Good article Cesare and this is all about tighten control over the internet for entertainment industry bigwigs.

When they can't get backing from major Hollywood players, Hollywood targets a film to fail, refuses to give an artist a recording contract The independents can use the internet needed to create publicity to give their work a chance. 

The problem is how much farther these laws can go.  Not just entertainment but a complete shut down of the free flow of information that the internet provides.



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Abby1964 wrote: Good article Cesare and this is all about tighten control over the internet for entertainment industry bigwigs.

When they can't get backing from major Hollywood players, Hollywood targets a film to fail, refuses to give an artist a recording contract The independents can use the internet needed to create publicity to give their work a chance. 

The problem is how much farther these laws can go.  Not just entertainment but a complete shut down of the free flow of information that the internet provides.


Interesting it is what a variety of contrarian takes are out there on the proposed law, but Abby makes the most salient point: the law threatens everyone's right to speech by potentially criminalizing all of us or at least our favorite websites.

And, as Abby has indicated, it is particularly noteworthy that these very corporations which wield such power to threaten us using own government as a proxy are not competent to judge where their own best interests lay. Ironic, is it not?

Here's another take which elaborates on the same theme:

https://plus.google.com/107033731246200681024/posts/BEDukdz2B1r#107033731246200681024/posts/BEDukdz2B1r

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Exactly Abby that's why every one is against it. If it gets past me and my yt crochet friends will not be able to post their vids for example and of course their various blogs and fb will be shut down.

That's the thing about these stupid laws, they say is to protect pps but it goes too far. Like everything pick on those that do good.

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Star Trek four had a story about transparent aluminium and now it would seem science fiction has become fact.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2088257/Star-Trek-really-IS-good-guide-future--Scientists-able-produce-transparent-aluminium.html


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Dragonflygurl wrote: Exactly Abby that's why every one is against it. If it gets past me and my yt crochet friends will not be able to post their vids for example and of course their various blogs and fb will be shut down.

That's the thing about these stupid laws, they say is to protect pps but it goes too far. Like everything pick on those that do good.
It's another case of 'Give up your rights and we will protect you'.  Most people never see beyond the supposed 'protection'.  A cage may 'protect' a bird but it also prevents them from flying.

Just like with Homeland security, these people will not understand that their wings have been clipped until it is too late.



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I am more or less a collectivist and while I personally might find giving up liberty in exchange for safety/common good to be a rather painful transition, I do consider it a perfectly valid, legitimate bargain (in theory at least). Personal freedom is a fairly illusory notion anyway, there is nothing inherently bad or pathologic about wanting to be safe and I've grown seriously sick of aggressive individualism over the years.
(My evil, legalist self has been getting stronger lately.)

But...
The recently proposed laws and the megaupload issue make me feel neither safe, nor protected - and I can't really see any *common* good arising out of them.



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I would consider it more valid if it worked. There is so much smoke blown up our asses about how safe we are under Homeland Security. The truth is that we haven't been made any safer for the freedoms we have given up, the government is just more vocal about claiming credit for the exact same things that were being done before 9/11 without invasion of privacy and the criminalization of its citizens.



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Cesare wrote: I am more or less a collectivist and while I personally might find giving up liberty in exchange for safety/common good to be a rather painful transition, I do consider it a perfectly valid, legitimate bargain (in theory at least). Personal freedom is a fairly illusory notion anyway, there is nothing inherently bad or pathologic about wanting to be safe and I've grown seriously sick of aggressive individualism over the years.
(My evil, legalist self has been getting stronger lately.)

But...
The recently proposed laws and the megaupload issue make me feel neither safe, nor protected - and I can't really see any *common* good arising out of them.

Giving up liberty in the sense of agreeing to live within a society wherein the means of production are under social -- rather than ruggedly individualistic -- control is one thing, but giving up liberty in the sense of abandoning rights to speech or fair trial thinking that doing so is a worthwhile trade-off for being able to deprive someone else of their "dangerous" rights is quite another.

As Lord Acton so irrefutably put it: power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The rights we abandon to our "guardians" in power will be exercised against us. I think this is what Benjamin Franklin might have had foremost in his mind when he advised that those who give up their rights for security deserve neither.

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Be_You_ wrote:
As Lord Acton so irrefutably put it: power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.


So does the notion of inalienable rights, in its own way. It spoils people rotten. :cool:
It starts with disobedience to the Crown and ends with elderly women suing dead teenagers. Meh. :P



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If you have a google account or know someone that does, please watch this, it's outragous. http://video.foxnews.com/v/1414293713001/new-google-data-policy-raising-privacy-concerns/

I better stop looking for men in their b'day suit then, lol.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2012 12:01 am

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RIP
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/celebrities/index.ssf/2012/01/robert_hegyes_juan_epstein_of.html



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RIP Epstein.



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