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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 07:21 pm |
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| I like all the main characters but have voted for Zev .
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Posted: Tue Jan 6th, 2009 05:06 pm |
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I still love Thodin for the way Barry Bostwick played it up chewing scenery--"You are slaves! SLAVES!" Perfect send-up!
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Posted: Sun Jan 11th, 2009 11:48 pm |
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Barry Bostwick is the only previous cast member from the movies that I haven't heard talk about Lexx. I wonder what his opnion was, and what he'd do if I showed up with a copy of IWHS for him to sign....
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Posted: Tue Jan 13th, 2009 12:29 pm |
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Well, considering he does not mind having people on the streets scream "ASSHOLE" at him and "Brad" after all of these years, I think he would not mind. His involvement certainly did not hurt him career-wise. He looked like he was having fun with it.
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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 01:17 pm |
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| No Prince? are you kiddin me
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 07:46 pm |
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Ah, I voted for Stanley. I like all the characters, but, well, he's Stanley! Sort of smarmy and lecherous at times, but in the end, he does the right thing.
I'm biased, of course ;-)
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Posted: Wed Apr 14th, 2010 04:29 pm |
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It's a no brainer, Kai. He really get's nothing out of being the "savior" all the time he simply does it because he has nothing better to do. He's not looking for glory or adoration it's just what he does.
But mostly because after thousands of years saving Stan and Xev from all of their stupid choices he never once thought "Damn the universe would be better off without these two!"
Even though Xev and Stan "saved" him a few times he was dead. So it really made no difference to him, he would have been just as happy decomposing on top of a compost heap.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19th, 2010 05:55 pm |
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I'd say the most heroic character in Lexx was Zev - though I'm not sure it is correct to distinguish her from Xev.
Her act of throwing herself into the device being used to destroy Kai was just slightly more heroic and selfless than Thodin's final battle with the divine assassin, because though Thodin seemingly didn't believe he was going to survive a fight with Kai based on facility with which he was able to transfer the key to his lieutenant, he did have the tricky-eye invisibility bomb at his disposal and he did almost win in the end; Zev could not have had any expectation to survive.
Sorry girls: Kai was a hero, but is highly overrated in this regard. When he gave his life up in the forlorn hope attack on the Divine Shadow, he otherwise faced certain death had he remained on Brunnis-2. Subsequent to that death until his return to the realm of the living in the final episode, he had nothing to lose. And though he gave up his life a second time in the destruction of the monster that was destroying the earth, he similarly would have had no future with that thing on the loose had he somehow cut the Higgs-Boson particle experiment free from his moth and managed to fly out of the solar system in time to make an escape.
Robert Heinlein once described the ultimate hero as someone who does something dangerous and selfless for someone he doesn't even know; like the Frenchman in Jean Renoir's "Boudu, saved from drowning" who couldn't even reasonably expect any acclaim from others for his act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudu_Saved_from_Drowning
Also: don't forget Bunny.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19th, 2010 07:49 pm |
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I'm going to have to agree to disagree with you here. You say that Kai had "nothing to lose" he also had "nothing to gain" by saving Stan and Xev/Zev countless times. Also usually Stan and Zev got themselves into messes and then just took it for granted that Kai would save them again and again and again. I'm sure that would even try the patience of the dead. After all How did they repay Kai saving their bacon? By immediately throwing it back in the fire. Kai was really the only one who displayed selflessness on a consistent basis. Stan and Zev consistently did things that put themselves and others at risk to follow their own personal agendas.
If you want to talk about saving Kai making someone a hero, then I would not apply it to Xev/Zev who for the most part had no fear, I would save that designation for Stan killing Vlad because Stan is basically scared of his own shadow. Stan had to dig up some courage from somewhere out of that yellow streak. So while Stan and Zev performed a courageous act here and there it's not like they were consistantly doing it.
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Posted: Fri Apr 23rd, 2010 02:47 pm |
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| I voted kai because quite simply hes my favorite. and I dont think it matters if some one is being selfless of not if you save some one for any reason even a bad one your still a hero. There are bad heros around.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25th, 2010 09:15 pm |
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| Lyekka turns into a hero, but she had an almost symbiotic relationship with Stan. If there were no other humans though she may have eaten him to survive though.
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Posted: Fri Jan 21st, 2011 02:59 pm |
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Be_You_ wrote:
Robert Heinlein once described the ultimate hero as someone who does something dangerous and selfless for someone he doesn't even know; like the Frenchman in Jean Renoir's "Boudu, saved from drowning" who couldn't even reasonably expect any acclaim from others for his act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudu_Saved_from_Drowning
Yep, which is exactly why I chose Thodin. He did it for all the right reasons (trying to save the people of his universe) whereas Zev did it for love. Different thing entirely.
Kai is to obvious, c'mon. We all know he attempted to save his planet. But his actions thereafter and his "unwillingness" to give up his divine assassin training (excluding the thought "In the Dark Universe, maybe I will be light,") he remained a strangely changed creature who was still testing the waters of good vs evil.
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Posted: Wed Feb 2nd, 2011 03:58 am |
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Squish! Tiny lizard takes out the Gigashadow. I love his (her?) little triumphant purr at the end, and the little tufts of hair! 
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Posted: Wed Apr 20th, 2011 05:27 pm |
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Kai, Kai and Kai once again. The hero of my heart  And still it is weird that the only reason to make Kai alive was to let him die.
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Posted: Tue Apr 26th, 2011 06:20 pm |
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Rustam wrote: Be_You_ wrote:
Robert Heinlein once described the ultimate hero as someone who does something dangerous and selfless for someone he doesn't even know; like the Frenchman in Jean Renoir's "Boudu, saved from drowning" who couldn't even reasonably expect any acclaim from others for his act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudu_Saved_from_Drowning
Yep, which is exactly why I chose Thodin. He did it for all the right reasons (trying to save the people of his universe) whereas Zev did it for love. Different thing entirely.
Kai is to obvious, c'mon. We all know he attempted to save his planet. But his actions thereafter and his "unwillingness" to give up his divine assassin training (excluding the thought "In the Dark Universe, maybe I will be light,") he remained a strangely changed creature who was still testing the waters of good vs evil.
You make a strong case for Thodin, but I think your exclusion of Zev based on her heroism being motivated by love is incorrect. In fact, love is the only reason for heroism. Though the example I gave was motivated by Zev's specific love of Kai, in Mantrid, Zev repeatedly bade Stanley to destroy the planet with her on it simply to keep the insect from surviving to torment mankind. What purer form of heroism can there be than that motivated by the love of all mankind?
Thodin was a bit of an ego, and though we can definitely say he's a hero, I maintain that Zev - perhaps due to her painful life experiences - demonstrated the greatest potential for heroism.
In truth, every character in the show was capable of some degree of heroism at times and often the opposite trait too.
The Robert Heinlein reference I made was of a story he told where an unknown hobo died while jumping to save someone elses' young girl child who had become tangled in the mechanism of a calliope.
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