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Nell
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I was always impressed how some shows are good at finding the actors. Sometimes you simply can’t imagine anyone else but this particular actor playing a certain character. For instance, lieutenant Colombo, Londo Mollari, Stan, etc.

And I’ve got a question.

What if Kai was played by another actor? Would this character be as tempting as it is now?

My answer might be (might-coz I’m not 100% sure) the following:
Michael McManus is extremely attractive and appealing. There is something in his appearance or personality (general impression , of course) that intrigues U. however, I find it possible to substitute him as Kai by someone else. I mean that the idea of a dead assassin is tempting by itself .

So, what do U think, will another Kai played by a less handsome actor be as popular as he is now?

Arcticfox
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I have a hard time imagining another actor doing Kai, and MM is not hard to look at on his worst day but he's not the only reason I watch the show. I don't think just any one could fill his shoes but right now me and my very playful imagination are having fun trying to picture it. I don't think anyone would do it as well though. I still laugh to my self at the seen where he's all but naked and he's "broken" and he says "I've got a lot of equipment" I literally spit what I was drinking allover my self, the couch and the dog.

Nell
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so, U mean that even if the actor follows all the dirextor's remarks without adding anything, it's still impossible to avoid a certain personification?

Cesare
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I think that Kai pretty much belongs to McManus. He gave the dead assassin a unique vibe - and I think he had some influence on Kai's character development (if you could call it that) as well.
I'm not sure what exactly is that "MM thing" but there is something about Kai that's very specifically MM.

Not saying another actor couldn't play the part and make it work - like you said, the idea itself and the story are powerful enough; but it would be a very different Kai, methinks.

Last edited on Thu Jun 13th, 2013 10:11 am by Cesare

Angel
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He brought Kai to life, so to speak. If a different actor had played him, it's hard to say if he could have done it as well as MM did.

Nell
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So,Angel , was Ur personal image of Kai formed through the MM's acting? Does MM's interpretation coincides with Ur image of the dead assassin or U decided to choose McManus's view and follow this line?


Cesare, I really like the way U answered. And I've got a question, which is more about the possible future. If it happenes that someone will decide to continue the story but with different actors, what will be Ur first reaction on it? When I thought of it myself, I first said^ No way. It's better to leave everything like this. But giving it a second thought, I decided that It'll be great if the story of Lexx continues. AT the same time, I can't imagine anyone else but Downey as Stan. I'm not sure whether I expressed my idea properly. Hope U'll get the gist.

Abby1964
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I really don't think I can envision anyone else playing any of the roles. I have a very hard time not just envisioning different actors, but a different production crew because it would not be the same show we fell in love with.

Just look at any remake. Case in point Dark Shadows. As awesome of an actor as Johnny Depp is, I absolutely detest the movie remake. The TV revival series was at least watchable if not enjoyable. Ben Cross tried to stay in the spirit of Barnabas Collins but still he was no Jonathan Frid. There is only one remake that I have seen that outshone the original and that was John Carpenter's The Thing and that was mostly due to the technological advances that had occurred in special effects since the 1950's.

Cesare
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I'd beg to differ, Abby...:-)
I'll always prefer Chang Cheh's Vengeance to Point Blank and I do believe Peter Chan's Wu xia is just as good as History of Violence (and I personally find it much richer and deeper in many respects).
It's just that Hollywood generally sucks at remakes. ;-p
I personally believe a good remake need not stay true to the spirit of the original. Most remakes and relaunches that make sense don't.
(Probably the only franchise I'm kind of militantly anti-remake about is The Crow - but I might not be if they were turning it into an experimental flick or a Bollywood musical).

So, if they decided to remake Lexx in a way dramatically different from the original, I'd give it a go.
Noone can bring the original back, anyway - that's what DVDs and reruns are for.

Last edited on Thu Jun 13th, 2013 05:46 pm by Cesare

Nell
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Abby, now I have to brush up my memory to answer U_) Thank U for Ur talent keeping me busy_) It's awesome__)

Cesare, thatnk U for Ur answer_)

Abby1964
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Once you get away from the spirit of the original, Especially with a TV series that has created a specific canon verse it's no longer the same thing it is something new. So I have to strongly disagree that a remake does not have to stay true to the original. Once you change canon it's something totally different.

A new LEXX trying to recreate a masterpiece, no. A new LEXX building on the canon of the original, maybe. I have to say that Star Trek got it right up until this new series of movies that absolutely reek. Throughout the different series they tried to stay faithful to established canon and simply picked it up and built on what was there. In the new movies the only character that is close to believable as canon is Karl Urban's portrayal of Bones which is very close to what you can imagine a young Bones was like based on Deforest Kelly's original portrayal of the character originally.

Arcticfox
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I love MM's Kai and he made Kai. I'm just saying its not the only reason I watch the show. I'm also just saying it would be interesting to see how other people interpret the role.

Cesare
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Yep, it is something new that resonates with the originative archive. A dialog is going on. You get new vibes and new vantage angles.
Or you simply get a different variation on a familiar theme or plot.

That's when remakes make sense and don't feel utterly redundant.



Continuing the Lexx would be an entirely different thing, though. An attempt to actually *continue* (not remake) should probably stick to whatever it was that made the original special.
But then, I think Lexx should be left alone. It ended perfectly. (Let's fanfic the hell out of it - but no official, would-be-canonical additions, please.)


I love the new Star Trek, by the way. :-]

Lake333GLD
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Cesare wrote:I think Lexx should be left alone. It ended perfectly. (Let's fanfic the hell out of it - but no official, would-be-canonical additions, please.)


I love the new Star Trek, by the way. :-]
I agree!

Nell
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ehhh, I still want to watch something with the Lexx spirit and charisma :carrot1:

Abby1964
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I agree that Lexx should be left alone. The story arc progressed perfectly and ended exactly as it should have with Kai sacrificing himself which simply brought the entire series full circle.

Nell
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all of U are right, but I'd like to believe that there might be something more sooner or later. Something that breaks the usual cliche_)



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