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Eva Habberman played Zev in season 1, Xenia played Xiv in season 2, 3 and 4, it would appear that there's a third girl playing her, or is that also Eva Habberman? It sure looks and sounds like someone else.

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No there were actually 3 fat Zev(Lisa Hines), Zev(Eva Habermann), and Xev(Xenia Seeberg) Those are the only three that played Zev/Xev



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Zev (the silver-blue-haired Eva Habermann) was killed saving Kai from the evil Dr. Kazan and his cohort on the medical satellite in Season 2's Terminal. She was replaced by Xev (Xenia Seeburg) in the following episode and all others.

Additionally, there was also the pre-sex slave incarnation of Zev Bellringer played by Lisa Hynes (the original, obese, "I don't want to live anymore!" Zev) who appeared -- at least -- in the first movie and Season 2's Woz when Xev was temporarily transformed back into her previous self.

I know periodically, Zev would "flash back" to when she was a child: did those scenes show a young girl -- or were they depicting her perspective only? I think the latter.

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hmm so maybe she (Eva) just looks and sounds very different than she did through the movies. When I compare, I do not see the same person. It's like she had a makeover or something, then of course Xenia takes over a few episodes in. Even the other people watching assumed that she (Zev from season 2 early episodes) was a different actress than season one Zev.

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Well, I see your point. Might the reason in fact be that Eva was so very young when the movies were made that the delay before the show started was sufficient to show her still developing? What a peach.

I have to correct what I wrote earlier. The more I think about it the more I am positive that there was a young girl Zev. I've got a clear mental picture of a cherubic girl with longish brown hair facing her parents anouncement that she was being given up for the Wife Bank. What episode? Super Nova, right?

Edit: By the way, did we already have a link to this?

http://www.maxim.com/girls-of-maxim/eva-habermann
 

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There were technically 4 people that played Zev Bellringer. Lisa Hines was in "I Worship His Shadow" as the orignal Zev, who is turned into a loveslave version of Zev, played by Eva Habermann ( which included some Cluster lizard). Then in Season 2, Eva was replaced by Xenia Seeberg, using the plot device that Zev had been killed by the mad Doctor in Terminal, and reincarnated later into a gooey Xev.
Also there was a flashback from when Zev had been a young girl, wearing a sort of nightgown, and her being raised in a box on B3K. Actually, both Eva and Xenia were really only PARTIALLY Zev/Xev, since they were contaminated with various outside lifeforms.


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Yes, of course, but what *was* the episode where the young Zev was shown? It wasn't Super Nova which depicts only Zev's parents telling her that she was being abandoned.

I'm pretty sure it is the same episode where the following appeared in the script:

"Your husband asks 'do you think I'm fat?'

1) No!

2) It's not what your look like on the outside, but the man on the inside that matters to me.


3) I *LIKE* a man with alot of meat on his bones! Can we get naked now and play "Ride the tower of power?"

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I think it might have been a flashback during "Woz", but don't quote me. I might have to go back and re-watch.



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Yes, of course, but what *was* the episode where the young Zev was shown? It wasn't Super Nova which depicts only Zev's parents telling her that she was being abandoned.

I'm pretty sure it is the same episode where the following appeared in the script:

"Your husband asks 'do you think I'm fat?'

1) No!

2) It's not what your look like on the outside, but the man on the inside that matters to me.


3) I *LIKE* a man with alot of meat on his bones! Can we get naked now and play "Ride the tower of power?"


I'm not sure if it's also the one featuring child version of Zev, but that would be Battle.

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Cesare, I had the same thought but when I scanned through the episode the first time, I didn't see it @ 23:00 in to the show. A Prince-assisted memory, no doubt intended to weaken Xev's defenses.

It was not as I remembered it. Zev is dressed in a baby's frilly-hood and smock, though she's already developing into her future buxom self. (In keeping with the notion that she had absolutely no freedom as a Wife Bank trainee, I'd say.)

IMBD does not have a credit for the young Zev, though information as to who played the part of the matron is available. Jennifer Overton.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0631295/fullcredits#cast

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I wouldn't forget, Battle is the only 3rd season episode I translated into Czech - and I struggled with "play ride the tower of power" and 790's love poetry *a lot*...:-)



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Cesare, I grok the tremendous intellectual power which is required to make a great translation, and I applaud you for what I imagine... with what amounts to zero knowledge of Czech... has been your outstanding effort. Good for you and all the Czech-speaking "weirdos" who like Lexx -- and the world they interact in. 

Upon further reflection on the question posed in the original post here, I did notice that the Eva Habermann-Zev of Season 1 and the Zev of the initial pair of episodes of the next season do indeed have differences. Eva's hair was big in Season 1, but it was *really* big in her Season 2 appearances. In Season 1 it had looked more fine and sort of natural -- if you kinda disregard the bluish aspect -- but definitely finer and more  like something you'd like to run you fingers through while making mad, mad... am I getting sidetracked here?

Did lighting change between the seasons? Was one filmed in Germany and one in Halifax?

Directing varied from show to show and that might have played some part in the semi-semblance of discontinuity in Zevs portrayer too. I suspect that a close analysis of the photography of the episodes might reveal that the lenses used in the movies were generally of a shorter focal length -- though feel free to scoff because I can only describe it as a sense I've gotten.

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It's not just the way she looks, when she was singing Yo Way Yo in one episode, it didn't sound like her, further more she acted different, it seemed to me when she says to Stan " ... If you do X, I will do it with you ... " didn't sound like something Season 1 Zev would say. This just seemed like a totally different Zev. Sounds like something that Xiv (s2/3/4) would say actually.

As far as the camera, I'm not sure, although I did notice a very different camera used in the movies vs in s2/3/4, also the audio was handled differently. I suppose all of this could easily explain her Ambiguous look during that time. As well as writing changes, peoples mood, who knows. Stan looked quite different too between the movies and s2, he looked maybe a little heavier, and a little older, so it only makes sense that Eva looks different too. There obviously was a big gap in time between the movies and s2.

The tatas don't even seem to match...

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Do you mean to refer to when Zev attempts to induce Stan to return to the Dark Zone on behalf of Kai (HDS-in-control-of-Kai, really) by offering her body? Where she says to Stan something to the effect of "don't you want me Stan? Want my body surrounding you, enveloping you, warming you up, heating you up, squeezing you like a big boy until you are ready to explode?" I put it to you that was totally in character.

Remember that she is a Wife Bank-trained woman with a spritzing of cluster lizard. In the Wife Bank, Xev was drilled with these types of man-flattering come-ons ("lets get naked and ride the tower of power") every day and the cluster lizard in her (a matrilineal species) was nothing if not practical and direct in nature.

Anyhow, I think the idea that Zev was so disgusted by Stan has been overwrought somewhat: she did almost go for him (which would, of course, have resulted in him being eaten straight away) in the first movie. In fact, any time Stan actually mustered some manly quality such as power or confidence in himself (which was a rare thing for him) he had a chance of getting her.

Tatas? Do you mean to suggest that Eva's wonderful body might have undergone some mechanical process? Perish the thought! I think it was simply a matter of costume variations. I think the delay was about a year and a half between the movies and the series. Stan definitely looked like he turned a corner age-wise during that time as you say.

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As for the hair - is it perhaps possible that early s2 Zev hair was actually a wig? I remember reading somewhere that they bleached and dyed her hair for the films - which resulted in some pretty serious damage...

Maybe Eva was wearing a wig - or they simply colored her hair blue without bleaching it beforehand (it sure looks like that in some scenes). I imagine she wouldn't be willing to ruin her hair again just for those two eps...

And since bleaching makes hair finer, it would also explain the visible difference in Zev's hair texture between s1 and s2...

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