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 Posted: Mon Jun 13th, 2011 01:38 pm

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Some scientists theorize that plants react to emotion. I think this episode was an expansion of that theory. Stanley of course runs to Kai for help immediately but Moss and grew show up before Lyekka can eat anyone.

But Lyekka liked her food 'happy' Perhaps she picked up on the sadness of the crew. Kai was off the menu being dead, 790 didn't have a body to eat which left Stan and remember although he was dreaming about Lyekka the dream left him with negative emotions which made him not so tasty also.

Now the Potatoho crew was riding some seriously positive emotions! they were the first from their little back water planet to encounter intelligent life, so they were probably riding a serious high which made them very tasty indeed, so Lyekka chows down on them and them uses Moss to bring back Xev. Perhaps she was trying to make her next meal tastier? Kind of like fattening a hog.

But if you notice whenever she is hungry, Stan is going through negative emotions so she eats someone else. I think in time the crew became more like 'companion' animals than 'food' animals. Lyekka would not eat Stan or Xev unless there absolutely was nothing else to eat. This kind of plays out during the second season but I don't want to get ahead of you.



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 Posted: Sun Jun 19th, 2011 11:14 pm

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I love the comments from other posters! It brings another angle to these stories other than my own basic reactions. :)

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 Posted: Sun Jun 19th, 2011 11:48 pm

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2.4 - Luvliner

Did I miss something here? The story picks up with everyone in their respective bedchambers, having their own respective sleepytime experiences. Xev is having wet dreams, Stanley is tossing and turning, Kai is frozen, and 790 is once again reciting lyrics to his beloved.

But when they wake up, Stanley and Xev move to the bridge of the LEXX and begin their next adventure, just like that. It feels like we've missed a scene or two. No joyful reunion with the reincarnated Xev, no explanation of how she might be different from the previous Zev, it's all just let's get on with it, no bridge between the previous story and this one. Felt weird.

Anyway, here we are. The LEXX picks up another broadcast, this time from a space bordello advertising its sexy offerings to all and sundry. The adverts' resemblance to late-night TV sex phone lines of the late 1990s is quite amusing, a reminder of the era in which this show was produced.

If there's one thing Stanley and Xev have in common, it is their sadly unsatisfied libidos, and their quest for satisfaction forms the basis of this adventure. To the Luvliner, posthaste!

And what do they find there? A rather scuzzy environment, populated by lowlife perverts in less-than-sanitary conditions. The crew separate to try and fulfill their individual sexual needs, to predictably unsatisfying results. Stan's selected lover ends up getting atomized by the Deutscher-Villain-of-the-Week, as does Xev's. 790 however has an experience that words cannot possibly describe, other than the robot head ended up giving unwilling head to one of the Luvliner's pervy staff (yoiks!)

What does it all mean? The perils of seeking out paid sex? The futility of desire? Ah, who knows. The crew end up having a typical adventure which involves discovering a new place, exploring and getting into trouble, and having to get bailed out by Kai. Is it too soon for this pattern to be established? I don't think so, as long as they keep finding new ways for Kai to be jettisoned into space or lost by other means.

The show still feels fresh. Xenia Seeberg has barely done anything so far, except confirm her Xev's desire for sex, and lust for Kai. There's still much ahead.

This story reflected the adventures of its cast. For all its promise and titillating subject matter, it felt ultimately unfulfilling. Maybe I'm just disappointed because Xev never got that hottie Varrtan out of his pants. Anyway...

Onward!

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Call me weird but Luvliner came off as something written by a bunch of neurotic Victorian Era prudes.  This is definitely a 'cautionary' tale. The message is not 'safe' sex but no sex.  Xev and Stanley end up with vaporized partners and poor 790 ends up having an 'electrifying' experience.  You almost have to feel sorry for him.

And then at the end you get the moral of "Don't cross the boss." 

I also felt it was a bit of a jump from Lyekka.  There's no issues that Xev needs to work through? She and Kai don't get into a philosophical discussion on Death?  That is what really gets me, Kai and Xev finally have something in common and instead of acknowledging it Xev, simply becomes fixated on getting into Kai's pants?  I do feel like the beans dropped the ball on this particular issue.  But then it won't be the last time I feel like the beans dropped the ball and overlooked a goldmine.



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 Posted: Sun Jun 26th, 2011 02:48 am

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I need to do a bit of catching up on my commentary to your commentary Czehoski, sorry to be a bit out of step here!

Terminal:

The story illustrates just how duplicitous malignant people - even medical professionals - can be. And of course its a great send-up of the for-profit medical system we have here in the United States.

Would the writers and producers of Lexx be among the small minority of Canadians so often quoted by right wing pundits in the U.S. to bolster their attack on the - now subverted - concept of socialized medicine? I think not.

Zev blows up a nearby moon as a means for getting MedSat's attention after the admissions nurse determines that standard policy requires Stan be classified as a "Type M1313 case: ignore" due to the lack of any insurance waivers or bankable metals to cover his treatment.

Czehoski, just like you, I don't know if it was a surprise to the producers that Eva Habermann was going to leave the show, but I remember the sense of vexation I felt when for a short time I mistakenly believed that Xenia Seeburg had been replaced by Eva Haberman instead of the other way around.

Seeburg has an earthy buoyancy in her character and those luscious lips - but Habermann is just such an exquisitely perfect specimen of feminine pulchritude. A delight to look upon! Upon further reflection, I wouldn't mind at all living in an alternate universe where the original Zev had stayed with the cast.

In this episode Kai was almost destroyed again. Maybe the heretics should have tried to force those slimy doctors to work for them.

Lyekka:

I too found Captain Moss' fantasy to be quite bizarre. Disturbing even. Could that have been commentary regarding the thought-processes underlying paternalism?

Let me add that Louise Wischermann is freaking hot... especially when dolled-out like Daisy Duke in some rustic cut-offs and freckles.

Loveliner:

I think the message is that there are many forms and level of sexual encounters both noble and depraved. The writers were just interrogating these limits. (I think they left out the scat - but that might have been hinted at... eww!)

I think Stan would have gotten good measure from his bony redhead had she been spared.

Notice the bad guys for the second episode in this season came within a hair's breadth of eliminating Kai. I think that subsequently the writer's decided to make him a bit more invulnerable; I don't think there were more than a couple or three such pickles for the dead man in all the remaining episodes of the show.

(Edit: well... maybe six or seven.)


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 Posted: Thu Jul 14th, 2011 11:21 am

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And we're back. Sunny summer days make for less TV viewing, but I managed to kick the next disc into the DVD player the other night. :cool:



2.5 - Lafftrak

Of all the insectile grotesqueries on this show, all the horrific deaths and all the phallic food dispensers, the one thing that has most creeped me out so far is Kai's attempt at laughter. It's like a cross between ape-like barking and parrot-like squawking. Creepy!

By now, we're getting used to the pattern. New planet. Xev charges ahead, Stanley trails behind, 790 makes some quips. Kai stays behind until shit gets real and things get out of control. Cue rescue.

Don't get me wrong, the template is simple yet open to a new interpretation every week, as we see in "Lafftrak."

[Quick aside - these misspelt titles kill me. I keep typing the words properly, then have to go back and misspell them.]

This is one of my favourite stories, and one that I well remember from its original broadcasts. Take the LEXX template and apply it to familiar TV templates: the chat show, the kids' show, the hospital drama, the sitcom. Our heroes are led on an ominous race through a mouse maze of TV studios populated by animatronic characters, a kind of Improv or Die.

I was hoping that the writers might go all the way and have Xev and Stanley end up on a sci fi program, on the bridge of a spaceship not unlike the LEXX itself. Maybe the array of living heads wasn't into that sort of thing. [Decapitations seem to figure prominently throughout the series so far, just noticed that.]

A couple of things that I liked about this story were that Stanley got to do more than cringe and whinge before Kai saved the day. It was Stan who fought his way back through the maze and rescued Xev. It was also Stan who had the scene-stealing moment when he kicked the head off one of the animatronic kids. I don't know why I laughed so hard at that, it was ridiculously violent. We've all been there, I suppose.

And to bring us all back down to blunt reality, Kai wraps up this episode with the cutting remark: "Being alive isn't everything." What other show would end with a line like that?

Loved it. This episode is fondly remembered and it was great to watch it again.

Bring back The Xev Show! "She's a special kind of girrrrl..."



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 Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 06:30 pm

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Czehoski, as you say, that laugh certainly was creepy - as was much of this whole episode. Of course the dead man was only feigning amusement to save Xev's pretty neck, but he was doubly handicapped because in his decarbonized state he probably couldn't reference anything which he might find funny in any case.

Also as you mention, Stan plays a bit of the hero in the end - though not until after Kai has already come on the scene and donated his body to the cause.  (Is Kai only able to control his body by remote control when his head is within a certain range - or within view?)

Interesting that the "CG" - which is a reference to computer-generated graphics no doubt - and the rest of the T.V. World apparatus was flexible enough to take Kai on as an extra. Were Slinka and Yo Yo's lovely and brightly bikini-clad bodies - and all the others on the planet - made of flesh and bones and controlled by computer heads? I think so.

I also think I recognized Paul Donovan as the most creepy "Specialty Show" host and Lex Gigeroff a both a contestant on the game show and a guest on the daytime talk show.

One thing that made an impression on me is the silly graphics generated for the original space battle scene. It was so hokey and obviously tongue in cheek. Maybe a nod to the original Star Wars in there too. It sets up a great counterpoint to the phenomenally bleak existence of the T.V. World studio audience.

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Is it too late to start tracking how many cameos Lex Gigeroff makes? :D

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 Posted: Fri Jul 29th, 2011 09:14 pm

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2.6 - Stan's Trial

I find "courtroom" shows very boring. In fact, I watched this episode of LEXX almost a week ago, and finally got around to forcing myself to type out some thoughts.

Don't blink, this will be a quick one.

The story starts off with -- what else? -- one of the LEXX crew declaring that they need to get their rocks off. In this case -- as in most cases -- it's Stanley.

Having located the Celes Pleasure Transport where he previously cavorted, Stan wants to make a beeline back there for some action. Xev seems bemused. 790 is his usual hostile self, and Kai is his usual frozen self, oblivious to the goings on.

No sooner has Stan arrived aboard the pleasure transport than he is captured by a gigantic, man-sized condom (nice touch!) and hauled before a court.

Enter the Grand Prosecutor Jihana, a seriously messed up piece of work. Sadistic, bloodthirsty, murderous, all she wants is to kill Stan by her own hand. A rigged trial will help see to that.

Kai's actions in this story are fascinating. He is on the side of Justice -- which means that he would be A-OK if Stanley was found guilty and executed for his alleged crimes. Xev his horrified by this and only wants to see Stan freed. An interesting twist occurs when Kai steps forward in the place of Stan's dismissed defender, Nool. Kai ultimately wins not freedom for Stan, but a quick and merciful death. Great, thanks!

Did I mention I don't like courtroom stories? The pacing of this one was brutally slow, and you could see the ending coming well before the halfway point. In fact, I had to watch this story TWICE because I feel asleep halfway through the first time. Good grief!

Anyway, Jihana foiled, Stan freed, the LEXX crew skedaddles just ahead of Mantrid's drone arms, cue exit theme.

ZZZZZZZZZZZ...


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I actually liked this one because it was a deep story. The age old question of the balance between crime and punishment. Who knew Lady justice is in reality a 2000 year old (at that point) Brunnen G with a penchant for dressing like Johnny Cash.

Kai has no problem following the letter of the law "If Stanley is guilty". But the letter of the law must be in agreement with the spirit of the law. Justice must not punish, it punish fairly. It was unfair for Stanley not to have representation so Kai steps up to argue Stanley's case.

Maybe the reformed planets maybe are not so reformed after all? Jihanna would have fit right in with the best of His Shadow's sycophants and if This is an example of the Court system they are in actuality no better than the Divine Order. Kai argues mitigating circumstances presenting evidence that Stanley is in fact also a victim. The information was tortured out of him by the sub-nebulan mercanaries (Although I don't why they bothered with torture when they have that neat little mind probe that can pull memories out of your head).

Stanley is found guilty and that brings us back to the letter of the law. Kai successfully argues Stanley's case in the sentencing phase of the trial. This is where we run into the problem of the letter and spirit in disagreement. It is the order to shoot Xev and Kai on sight that reveals that the spirit of the law is being violated and that Jihanna has no intentions of upholding the law.

Kai steps up again and foils Jihanna's plans. The thing with this episode is that It makes you realize that justice and the law are two different things.



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Czehoski, this episode was indeed a bit slow, but I appreciated how the story of Stan's great failure in letting the access codes fall into HDS hands was finally fleshed-out.

Sorry to continue on in the courtroom drama vein and risk being a complete bore, but I think the case against Stan merits a bit of exploration. (Caveat: I am not a lawyer nor do I even watch them being played on TV much.)

While re-watching this episode, I remembered being puzzled as to whether the girls at the pleasure transport had in fact set up the young Stan to lead the forces of HDS to the Heretic's base and later lose possession of his secret cargo to the mercenaries - or was it all just a big coincidence?

The mind probe replay of the interchange between the young Stan and Lisha seemed quite incriminatory in a circumstantial way, but I don't think it can be seen as definitive. Indeed, perhaps Stan received his freebie sexual favors simply for the reason that was stated: that the pleasure girls supported the Heretics.

If Jihanna had been able to prove her accusations against the girl, she would have used the mind-probe on her and not simply murdered her. Maybe Lisha only asked Stan his rank among the heretics as a means for plumb whether he was telling the truth about his relationship to them.

During the guilt phase of the trial, Kai argued for mercy identifying Stan as a "tainted hero" due to his indispensable role in eliminating the Divine Shadow, so I question just how strongly he believed Stan should die simply for his earlier cowardice and loose talk. Surely Jihanna's claim that Stan had "caused" the destruction of the base and the 100 planets was tenuous at the best.

Later when Kai said that he would have killed Stan if he'd been asked by Stan to dispense justice, perhaps it would in part have been to "balance" - a term which the dead man uses from time to time in the Lexx series - Stan's own attempt at determining the fate of others.

In what was one of the great lines in the whole series, Kai responds to Jihanna's unintentional softball rebuke of his rhetoric with the retort: "I am well qualified to speak for the dead."

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Considering the reformed worlds were well aware of the divine Order and the order's weapons, that line makes you wonder just how Jihanna and the rest of the court didn't already know that Kai was "well qualified to speak for the dead."
 It's obvious from Zev and Stanley's first reaction to Kai that they know he is a Divine Assassin.  Then Twilight confirms that Divine Assassins are easily identified.




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That's a valid observation Abby, but on the other hand I think that omission might be explainable simply due to the limitations of telling a story in 45 minutes: it wouldn't have added anything to the tale to delve into the court's reaction to meeting up with a (recovering) divine assassin.

I think that despite the supreme confidence Jihanna exhibited in herself, she can be seen as a little bit simple-minded - especially in context with her malignant obsessions. Her foolish rhetoric can simply follow from that. Supreme confidence - and overly high professional attainment - among highly motivated dimwits is not, after all, an unknown phenomenon.

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Or perhaps (Another thought that popped into my head) is that they do know what Kai is and Stanley being in his company was a strike against Stan.  Once a tool of the divine order, always a tool of the Divine Order.

One final observation, it was a kangaroo court and perhaps the point of the guilty verdict was propaganda.  There was another goal of here.  The conviction and execution of a known 'Traitor' would have made Jihanna look good politically.  But that still doesn't wash because Jihanna orders the execution of both Kai and Xev.  Kai is already dead and told her and the court that fact during the trial.  But Think of the political power she would have gained bu executing the traitor and his 'associates'.



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