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 Posted: Sat Feb 12th, 2011 08:52 pm

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Adrift wrote: Well having dabbled in the Goth scene along with the punk, and post-punk scenes I can certainly relate to the steampunk/Gothic aesthetic. Kai is your definitive Deathrocker /(slash) Sisters of Mercy type late 80s to late 90s Goth rocker. To be honest though, I thought living Kai had a better hairdo and (obviously) better skin than dead Kai :D


Well if you're into Gothic art and punk,  you might recoginze infamous gothic artist Jordan Smith of Darkview, who has designed some great Lexx graphics, he's also a long-time fan. His stuff is legendary. Visit his site, all his Lexx stuff is in gallery #4.

http://www.darkview.co.uk/







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Nope, can't say that I'm familiar with him or his work. But you're right, his graphics are pretty snazzy. I especially like the last one. Thanks for the link.

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Adrift wrote: JediPug1 wrote:
Hey, Adrift... Nice to meet you!  It's always a pleasure to meet some new Lexxians.  :0-02:


Thanks for the welcome Jedi! Its just good to know I'm not alone.

I was alone for years!  No one I knew watched Lexx... *shudders* Those were dark times... I'm so glad I found this little refuge!  I just wish it didn't take me so long...




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Yeah, we're your friendly neighborhood Lexx support group. :new_shocked:



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Yeah, we're your friendly neighborhood Lexx support group. :new_shocked:
Why do I now have the urge to stand up and announce "Hi My Name is Abby and I'm a LEXXaholic"?:BigB:



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So I'm in season 4. I was expecting this season to be a let down because from what I had read on forums and reviews, 4 often seems to be most folks least favorite. I just finished ep. 9 (Fluff Daddy), and you know what?... I have to say that, so far, this season has the best scripted dialogue I've seen yet. The humor is rapid fire and really funny. The actors are interacting with one another in a way that seems far more realistic to me. And for the first time I'm understanding some of Zev, Kai, and Stan's motivations (or lack thereof) for doing what they do. I don't remember how many episodes in previous seasons I'd ask myself, "now why would he let them on board the Lexx" or "why would she want go to that planet", and the answer is that, compared to earthlings, they're either naive or fearless (well, except Stan who's mostly horny and cowardly). Another thing is that, the show actually feels less B than it did before. That's a good and a bad thing, but it probably has to do with the recognizable backdrop. 790 has way better dialogue this season. I don't know how much more I could stand of him yelling either Xev/Zev or Kai's names, but he's such a punk now that I'm surprised someone hasn't thrown him over the side of the captain's deck.

My only issue with this season so far is that I really loved the out of this universe zaniness from seasons 1 and 2. I loved the fact that the creators were forced to find ways to bring us new places, planets, people, and plot lines. This season has the feel of season 2, but better writing and on familiar turf, but we lose the otherworldliness (obviously). If I could combine the quality of the writing in this season, with the locales of season 3, and the offbeat creativity and zaniness of seasons 1 and 2, it'd be the perfect show. Ohwell, guess I'll just have to appreciate each season for what it is.

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Adrift wrote: :D

So I'm in season 4. I was expecting this season to be a let down because from what I had read on forums and reviews, 4 often seems to be most folks least favorite. I just finished ep. 9 (Fluff Daddy), and you know what?... I have to say that, so far, this season has the best scripted dialogue I've seen yet. The humor is rapid fire and really funny. The actors are interacting with one another in a way that seems far more realistic to me. And for the first time I'm understanding some of Zev, Kai, and Stan's motivations (or lack thereof) for doing what they do. I don't remember how many episodes in previous seasons I'd ask myself, "now why would he let them on board the Lexx" or "why would she want go to that planet", and the answer is that, compared to earthlings, they're either naive or fearless (well, except Stan who's mostly horny and cowardly). Another thing is that, the show actually feels less B than it did before. That's a good and a bad thing, but it probably has to do with the recognizable backdrop. 790 has way better dialogue this season. I don't know how much more I could stand of him yelling either Xev/Zev or Kai's names, but he's such a punk now that I'm surprised someone hasn't thrown him over the side of the captain's deck.

My only issue with this season so far is that I really loved the out of this universe zaniness from seasons 1 and 2. I loved the fact that the creators were forced to find ways to bring us new places, planets, people, and plot lines. This season has the feel of season 2, but better writing and on familiar turf, but we lose the otherworldliness (obviously). If I could combine the quality of the writing in this season, with the locales of season 3, and the offbeat creativity and zaniness of seasons 1 and 2, it'd be the perfect show. Ohwell, guess I'll just have to appreciate each season for what it is.


You've pretty much it the nail on the head as far as the writing goes. Jeff wrote most of this season's scripts and especially his own lines, and his outrageous humor is evident. How many Scifi shows can parody both the Porn industry and Bill Clinton in one episode? As for the characters motivations, Stanley: horny and cowardly is exactly right, and Xev is always and forever the adventurer. As for 790 being so annoying, just wait a couple more eps to see what happens. Oh, by the way, that was Jeff in the part of the Pizza delivery porn guy, Dick Dongler.

The one big complaint that fans had about S4 was that it was set on Earth, and there were too many political innuendos that wouldn't have been evident with a off-world setting, otherwise it would have been the best season. My personal favorite was Fluffdaddy, simply because of the rants that 'LiveKai' does about the fans.

Oh, btw, there are 2 deleted scenes from Fluffdaddy that you can find either on the DVD or at the MM.com site, that gives you a big insight into the actors and characters mental state that will make a ton more sense to you. They just didn't have time to air it. The files on the MM.com site can be downloaded and are in AVI format. The Youtube ones will be lesser quality and FLV files.

http://www.michael-mcmanus.com/video.htm

Scroll down th page til  you see Lexx episode scenes, then look for the Fluffdaddy deleted scenes 1 and 2, and you can also find them on Youtube,

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmzqGoPRLNA

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQk2n5HdlcA

 



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The appeal of season 4 for me was all the political innuendo and parodying of society. So much was 'dead on' with what was/is happening in the world.

As far as 790, I don't know if it was intentional or not but it seemed that he started becoming more 'like Kai' or at least what he perceived Kai to be. After all technically an assassin is a 'serial killer'. I think that played out well with 790 changing from what he was when he was in love with Xev to what he became when he was obsessed with Kai.



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I really dug the scathing satire of US politics in season 4. I think we could use more of that. Our notion of 'superiority' can be a bit ugly, I think. Sometimes our ego needs to be taken down a peg or two. Common view seems to be different = bad. Which makes no sense to me.

The change 790 underwent was interesting. When he was obsessed with Z/Xev he would do anything she asked. He helped them. But when he switched to Kai, he became eeevil and kept plotting their destruction. I say a psycho robot head is an entertaining robot head.



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I don't know how I missed those deleted scenes from Fluff Daddy but the first one gave me flashbacks to the show In Living Color and Damon Wayans Booked On Phonics skit. At least Live Kai did use real words.



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Adrift wrote: Yeah, I think every Goth's hairstyle is ultimately based on Robert Smith's :P

:D  snorties



meanwhile .... downey DOES look like pinon.  despite having seen all of lexx and most of pinon's work, I needed you to point that out.

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You've pretty much it the nail on the head as far as the writing goes. Jeff wrote most of this season's scripts and especially his own lines, and his outrageous humor is evident. How many Scifi shows can parody both the Porn industry and Bill Clinton in one episode? As for the characters motivations, Stanley: horny and cowardly is exactly right, and Xev is always and forever the adventurer. As for 790 being so annoying, just wait a couple more eps to see what happens. Oh, by the way, that was Jeff in the part of the Pizza delivery porn guy, Dick Dongler.


Yeah, I had read that that was Jeff. Very funny. I actually really liked his sort of casually disinterested take on that character. I would have liked to have seen more of him. :D As far as the Clinton thing... I must have missed the context. To be honest I'm fairly apolitical and political satire is so easy to do, and so often done, that it really does nothing for me. Also, for me, the best parts of season 4 were usually the episodes not taking place in the US. I loved the episodes taking place in Newfoundland, and Transylvania. Seeing as the show was created by Canadians and Germans I sort of expected to see less focus on the US, but goes to show how much a cultural influence the States have I suppose (and I'm sure being featured on the SciFi network had something to do with it too).

The one big complaint that fans had about S4 was that it was set on Earth, and there were too many political innuendos that wouldn't have been evident with a off-world setting, otherwise it would have been the best season. My personal favorite was Fluffdaddy, simply because of the rants that 'LiveKai' does about the fans.

Yep. Agreed. I thought live Kai's fate was a bit disappointing, but I really dug seeing McManus sort of riffing on art and artists that take themselves too seriously, and also the dynamic between artists and their fans.

Oh, btw, there are 2 deleted scenes from Fluffdaddy that you can find either on the DVD or at the MM.com site, that gives you a big insight into the actors and characters mental state that will make a ton more sense to you. They just didn't have time to air it. The files on the MM.com site can be downloaded and are in AVI format. The Youtube ones will be lesser quality and FLV files.

Thank you for mentioning this. Very funny and informative.

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The appeal of season 4 for me was all the political innuendo and parodying of society. So much was 'dead on' with what was/is happening in the world.


Ah, yeah. Well as I mentioned to maya, I'm not so much a fan of the political stuff... It has a tendency to date itself pretty quickly, but the general parodying of society as a whole was funny, but pessimistic. Really dark when you step away and think about it.

As far as 790, I don't know if it was intentional or not but it seemed that he started becoming more 'like Kai' or at least what he perceived Kai to be. After all technically an assassin is a 'serial killer'. I think that played out well with 790 changing from what he was when he was in love with Xev to what he became when he was obsessed with Kai.

You know... that makes a lot of sense, and after reading this I was able to watch the last half of season 4 with that in mind and it really came together.

Kai-trinahello... =)

Hello back :)

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Adrift wrote: ]Yeah, I think every Goth's hairstyle is ultimately based on Robert Smith's :P

:D  snorties


I offer my own coiffure from a few years back as exhibit A and B... though admittedly deathhawks are probably more inspired by folks like Daniel Ash from Bauhaus or more specifically Johnny Slut of Specimen.




meanwhile .... downey DOES look like pinon.  despite having seen all of lexx and most of pinon's work, I needed you to point that out.

Haha. Well I'm glad someone else caught the resemblance. Every time I saw one or the other actor my mind flipped to the other. Its not just the look, but even the sort of spazzy acting style as well (though, I hate to say, I think Pinon is maybe the better actor, especially after having rewatched Delicatessen recently).

hola, by the way.  welcome to the nuthouse :c030a:


Thank you. I appreciate it. Really enjoying myself here. :)

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