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 Posted: Fri Feb 11th, 2011 02:14 am

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Ketana wrote: There are 'other' Lexx sites? really? whoowuda thought it...
You mean there's others? Where in the HELL have I been?  *scratches head*


LOL! I was kind of feeling like we were the Bates Motel of LEXXdom. Kind of the only business left open on some old 2 lane highway that nobody uses anymore unless they live in the area.

Hmmmm Think I'll avoid the shower!:c030a:


I feel like I'm missing some sort of in joke here. :D The other forums I was thinking of included the Sy-Fy Lexx forum, the IMDB one, and a handful of fan made sites. I'm assuming there's probably some old rivalries between fan sites, or... at least, there might have been.


When I started getting back into LEXX last year and started checking out the the different LEXX forums they were there but they were dead. Maybe a handful of posts for the entire previous year. Every time I came lurking around this forum, there were new posts being made.

LEXX fandom is like getting on one of those old 2 lane highways. You drive along and pass deserted gas stations that advertising gas for $1.39 a gallon, the storefronts have plywood over the windows and weeds have almost taken over the parking lot growing up through the cracks in the asphalt.

You don't find too many businesses open because they are all building up around the interstate and the old highway which used to be the main drag is forgotten except for the people who live in the area, all the traffic is over on the Interstate. They just can't be bothered with the scenic route.

Except for some die hards and the new people who stumble across the show, LEXX is something that came and went and they are all raving over some new show and forgotten that they ever liked LEXX. LEXX is the old 2 lane Highway while the newest offerings are the interstate. Most LEXX Forums today are like the deserted gas stations. They may be on the road but they are relics.



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When I started getting back into LEXX last year and started checking out the the different LEXX forums they were there but they were dead. Maybe a handful of posts for the entire previous year. Every time I came lurking around this forum, there were new posts being made.

LEXX fandom is like getting on one of those old 2 lane highways. You drive along and pass deserted gas stations that advertising gas for $1.39 a gallon, the storefronts have plywood over the windows and weeds have almost taken over the parking lot growing up through the cracks in the asphalt.

You don't find too many businesses open because they are all building up around the interstate and the old highway which used to be the main drag is forgotten except for the people who live in the area, all the traffic is over on the Interstate. They just can't be bothered with the scenic route.

Except for some die hards and the new people who stumble across the show, LEXX is something that came and went and they are all raving over some new show and forgotten that they ever liked LEXX. LEXX is the old 2 lane Highway while the newest offerings are the interstate. Most LEXX Forums today are like the deserted gas stations. They may be on the road but they are relics.


Wow. Wonderful analogy. I've always loved those empty highways with dated billboards and shuttered truck stops though, so I don't mind if its not bustling with rush hour traffic. Its an interesting sociological phenomenon how some of these shows can have a relatively small, yet absolutely devoted fan followings. This obviously isn't your mainstream Buffy, Star Trek or even Babylon 5 type fan following. Seems to me more comparable to the fan followings in the wake of the original The Prisoner or Twin Peaks.

I'm now on episode 6 of season 3. I didn't think I'd like where season 3 was going initially, but even though things have totally shifted gears I'm finding I'm just as enthralled. I hate to admit it, but I'm thinking I like it more than season 2, or maybe its that I like both seasons the same so far and its the contrast between the 3 seasons I've watched so far thats so intriguing. This is a very odd show. Extremely enjoyable.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 11th, 2011 04:19 am

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To give you a quick breakdown  on the format of the show, it is broken up into 4 seasons, the first season being the actual films made for Showtime back in the mid-90's.

1. I Worship His Shadow (with Barry Bostwick), Eating Pattern (with Rutger Hauer), Supernova (with Time Curry) and Gigashadow (with Malcolm McDowell) were all made for Showtime films to be shown on cable only. The actual tapes came out in the UK first, then Germany and finally in Canada.

2 The Series was picked up for distribution and it showed on Scifi tv in the UK before it showed in the US. It also showed on Candadian and German TV, but not exactly at the same time.

3. When Scifi picked it up, there was already a big buzz about it, but they stupidly tried to market the sex aspect of the show by showing the majority of the episodes that Xenia Seeberg was in, and out of order of the regular series, making for some extremely pissed off fans. The network never marketed the show properly and there remains to this day some very bad blood between the fans and one Bonnie Hammer, the then exec in charge of marketing Lexx. She just did not 'get' the show and tried her best to switch it from one time slot to another in an attempt to bury it.

4. Despite her efforts, the fans demand generated 4 seasons.

5. Season 2, were individual stand-alone episodes with one or two story-arcs inserted, tons of humour and sex and lots of weirdness. Jeffrey Hirschfield wrote many of those eps and his deranged sense of humour is evident.

6. Season 3, which was primarily written by Paul Donovan instead of Jeffrey Hirschfield, was much darker and a continuing 13-episode story arc that was filmed in Hi-Def in Germany at a time when Hi-Def had not kicked in yet for US TV. It also introduced a new permanent cast member in Nigel Bennett, who played the evil Prince. (formerly of Forever Knight)

7. Season 4 went back to using Jeffrey as a writer for many of the episodes and there are a few 3 story arc eps that tie together. Some say S4 was not the best season, but the writers knew at that point  that the series was wrapping up and threw in the kitchen sink, plot-wise, and tied up all loose ends by the last episode.

8. The different writing styles of Paul Donovan, Jeff Hirschfield and Lex Giggeroff are very evident if you watch the individual seasons 'flavor'. Jeffrey has the most outrageous sense of humour and has no qualms about crossing the line to bad taste.

 Lex has the honor of not only having the actual ship 'The Lexx' named after him, but the character of 'Giggerota the Wicked', played by the gorgeous Ellen Dubin. He also played several characters throughout the series, including His Divine Shadow. Jeffrey was the voice and character of 790-Robot Head, and has the best lines simply because he gets to write them himself.  Paul didn't appear on camera, but directed tons of the eps, and had guest appearances of notable directors from Europe and Canada during the series. There is tons more history to the show, but this should give you a basic background on the series mythology.

As for the Syfy channel board, it used to be very active back in the 90's, but with the new shows taking over in popularity and the incredibly dumb decision of the network to change it's name to 'Syfy' (wtf?), traffic on the board dwindled and people visited other fan boards. The other 2 remaining boards were ones that we started and others inherited when we built this board. The Brian Downey board also exists for not only Lexx but all of Brian's other work, and definitely should be visited if you're interested in his other projects.

Neither Michael or Xenia have thier own official boards simply because we use this one to fill in for that, being as the official  http://www.michael-mcmanus.com site is the sister site to this board. You'll find lots of Lexx stuff on that site in addition to just the actor's section.

Enjoy.

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If you really want an in-depth humorous look into the series, I'd suggest you read Bilbo's episode reviews. They are awesome!



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 Posted: Fri Feb 11th, 2011 03:44 pm

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mayaXXX wrote: To give you a quick breakdown  on the format of the show, it is broken up into 4 seasons, the first season being the actual films made for Showtime back in the mid-90's.

1. I Worship His Shadow (with Barry Bostwick), Eating Pattern (with Rutger Hauer), Supernova (with Time Curry) and Gigashadow (with Malcolm McDowell) were all made for Showtime films to be shown on cable only. The actual tapes came out in the UK first, then Germany and finally in Canada.

2 The Series was picked up for distribution and it showed on Scifi tv in the UK before it showed in the US. It also showed on Candadian and German TV, but not exactly at the same time.

3. When Scifi picked it up, there was already a big buzz about it, but they stupidly tried to market the sex aspect of the show by showing the majority of the episodes that Xenia Seeberg was in, and out of order of the regular series, making for some extremely pissed off fans. The network never marketed the show properly and there remains to this day some very bad blood between the fans and one Bonnie Hammer, the then exec in charge of marketing Lexx. She just did not 'get' the show and tried her best to switch it from one time slot to another in an attempt to bury it.

4. Despite her efforts, the fans demand generated 4 seasons.

5. Season 2, were individual stand-alone episodes with one or two story-arcs inserted, tons of humour and sex and lots of weirdness. Jeffrey Hirschfield wrote many of those eps and his deranged sense of humour is evident.

6. Season 3, which was primarily written by Paul Donovan instead of Jeffrey Hirschfield, was much darker and a continuing 13-episode story arc that was filmed in Hi-Def in Germany at a time when Hi-Def had not kicked in yet for US TV. It also introduced a new permanent cast member in Nigel Bennett, who played the evil Prince. (formerly of Forever Knight)

7. Season 4 went back to using Jeffrey as a writer for many of the episodes and there are a few 3 story arc eps that tie together. Some say S4 was not the best season, but the writers knew at that point  that the series was wrapping up and threw in the kitchen sink, plot-wise, and tied up all loose ends by the last episode.

8. The different writing styles of Paul Donovan, Jeff Hirschfield and Lex Giggeroff are very evident if you watch the individual seasons 'flavor'. Jeffrey has the most outrageous sense of humour and has no qualms about crossing the line to bad taste.

 Lex has the honor of not only having the actual ship 'The Lexx' named after him, but the character of 'Giggerota the Wicked', played by the gorgeous Ellen Dubin. He also played several characters throughout the series, including His Divine Shadow. Jeffrey was the voice and character of 790-Robot Head, and has the best lines simply because he gets to write them himself.  Paul didn't appear on camera, but directed tons of the eps, and had guest appearances of notable directors from Europe and Canada during the series. There is tons more history to the show, but this should give you a basic background on the series mythology.

As for the Syfy channel board, it used to be very active back in the 90's, but with the new shows taking over in popularity and the incredibly dumb decision of the network to change it's name to 'Syfy' (wtf?), traffic on the board dwindled and people visited other fan boards. The other 2 remaining boards were ones that we started and others inherited when we built this board. The Brian Downey board also exists for not only Lexx but all of Brian's other work, and definitely should be visited if you're interested in his other projects.

Neither Michael or Xenia have thier own official boards simply because we use this one to fill in for that, being as the official  http://www.michael-mcmanus.com site is the sister site to this board. You'll find lots of Lexx stuff on that site in addition to just the actor's section.

Enjoy.

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Very informative! Thank you.

I'm wondering who's writing I actually identify with the most then. Sounds like it was Jeffery Hirschfield's weirdness that attracted me to the series to begin with but if he's also responsible for the over the top silliness then maybe not so much. Eh, more likely than not its the combined talents of all 3 that pulled me in. The Beatles were almost always better together than solo. :)

So, is there any plans for the 3 writers to get together again at some point? Have any of them done anything as experimental as Lexx? Any talk of future Lexx projects?

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Angel wrote: If you really want an in-depth humorous look into the series, I'd suggest you read Bilbo's episode reviews. They are awesome!
Yep, I've read quite a few of them already. They're fun to read and he's pretty funny. My only complaint is that he's not very critical. There's been more than a few epsiodes where I've thought to myself "What?? Come on... she wouldn't say that!" or think to myself that the logic of the plotline in a scene just makes too little sense... the writing got sloppy, the acting felt stiff, the FX were beyond bad, or whatever. He doesn't really criticize those types of things very heavily, and maybe that's because he was reviewing from the perspective of one who just didn't think it was important to take the show too seriously. Its the sort of show that you kind of just ride along with without over thinking it. But I don't know. There are some episodes and concepts that I think are just works of art, and I think that if you appreciate art its sometimes worth taking it a little seriously. I don't know. :)

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Unfortunately no plans for any future Lexx projects, and the writing team hasn't worked together since then. Paul Donovan did a couple of films after Lexx, 'Conclave' and 'Blissestrasse', one of which starred Brian Downey and the other starred Michael McManus, but no combined efforts on the parts of the writers. Many have asked about a reunion but it's just not in the cards.

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mayaXXX wrote: Unfortunately no plans for any future Lexx projects, and the writing team hasn't worked together since then. Paul Donovan did a couple of films after Lexx, 'Conclave' and 'Blissestrasse', one of which starred Brian Downey and the other starred Michael McManus, but no combined efforts on the parts of the writers. Many have asked about a reunion but it's just not in the cards.

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Yeah. Figures. Ohwell.

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This site does have a 90s look & feel, it's a cool throwback.  Just wanted to second the compliment.  :cool:

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This site does have a 90s look & feel, it's a cool throwback.  Just wanted to second the compliment.  :cool:

Yep. As soon as I found it I was like, Wow! This feels like the "show" in a way. By the way, for some reason its hard for me to simply call it a "show". Its a creative piece of work of art. I've been interested and involved in the punk scene for almost 20 years now, and even in the 80s, when I was a kid, my dad, an artist, would take me to the college section and art district of Providence, RI to go gallery hopping. Punks, and New Wavers, and Skinheads were everywhere, and what's always drawn me to that scene has been that no boundaries sort of creativity... from the music to the look to ideology. I see a lot of that with Lexx, especially evident in the first season. Its out there and I love it. This web forum has a lot of that same feel. :)

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Thanks for the compliments on the site. Our board theme is 'Black Metal', but is a throwback to a sort of gothic-steam-punk look to it. Lexx was also considered a sort of gothic space opera, hence the weird costumes and hair.

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"Gothic space opera" is the perfect description. :P 

 



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Well having dabbled in the Goth scene along with the punk, and post-punk scenes I can certainly relate to the steampunk/Gothic aesthetic. Kai is your definitive Deathrocker /(slash) Sisters of Mercy type late 80s to late 90s Goth rocker. To be honest though, I thought living Kai had a better hairdo and (obviously) better skin than dead Kai :D

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Kai's hairstyle is supposedly based on the look from 'The Cure'.

http://www.thecure.com/photos/default.aspx?fid=8013



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Kai's hairstyle is supposedly based on the look from 'The Cure'.

http://www.thecure.com/photos/default.aspx?fid=8013


Yeah, I think every Goth's hairstyle is ultimately based on Robert Smith's :P


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