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 Posted: Thu Dec 9th, 2010 09:10 pm

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Abby1964 wrote: JediPug1 wrote:
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I can see it now, MM in the studio with some crappy canned commercial music and three spoken on the track-"Kiss my ass!"


I'd pay money for that.  :2567:


Me too and on the B-side MM's cover of Millie's Phuck You! That's a guaranteed gold record lol!


I'm smelling a hit in the making!  Then we could be his groupies and follow him on tour!  :carrots_disco:



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 Posted: Fri Dec 10th, 2010 12:53 am

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I'm in! All stars need an entourage lol!



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 Posted: Fri Dec 10th, 2010 07:12 am

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Abby1964 wrote: mayaXXX wrote:
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He's from Canada - he's used to the cold!  Chicago would feel like home - heck, it's probably warmer!  And I make delicious hot cocoa, and I have a fireplace.  He'd be all nice and cozy.  

Wait, hold on.... I just realized we now have two battles raging...  Poor Michael/Kai!  LOL:xmas33:


I grew up in Virginia it's why I live in the south now! A couple of days and a few margaritas and Dos Equis later :OliveDrink: and he'll forget there is even anything north of Austin! Guess I'd have to take him to 6th street Austin since that's where all the good music comes from.:beatles:


Oddly enough I lived in Texas for over 30 years and now live in Virginia because I can't take that blasted heat any longer. The cold here is much more refreshing, plus they actually have seasons !

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The only thing I miss about VA is the turning of the trees. I made a 24 year pitstop in Florida so Texas heat is comfortable. Warmth without 90% humidity on a daily basis!

Really?  I've visited Texas three times around the Dallas area, once in May, June and September, and even then it was hot as hell and humid as shit.



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 Posted: Fri Dec 10th, 2010 08:47 am

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Remember how big Texas is we've got almost every climate you can think of in one state, Houston is just as miserable as Florida. San Antonio is low humidity and pretty temperate. Not at all like Dallas that gets buried under that white stuff. Even Austin just an hour or so north has a different climate from San Antonio.

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Oddly enough, for all the time I lived in Dallas, I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times it snowed. The last time was a whopping 5 inches. It shut the entire city down. This past couple of years have seen more snowfall than the past 20.



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YEs the past couple of years and last year forget about it. Houston Got 8 inches and San Antonio Had heavy flurries that melted as soon as they hit the ground and the entire snowstorm for us was all of 15 minutes



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I remember this time last year .. you guys discussing flurries and such - while I bemoaned the australian summer. hard to wrap the brain around it all when you're sweating sitting still.

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Give it 6 months and we'll be complaining about the heat! Oh well I don't I'm still used to the Florida humidity, so this San Antonio heat is a walk in the park!



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Abby1964 wrote: Give it 6 months and we'll be complaining about the heat!
true enough!

though our winters are feeble things, by comparison.  actually as a cold lover and heat avoider, this probably isn't the ideal climate for moi :P


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Kai's story broke my heart. I was crushed that it ended the way it did. It was so unfair! But I think it absolutely had to end that way. He had to die. A happy ending would have been, I think, satisfying in the moment, but it wouldn't have had the impact of the tragic ending. I don't think it would have stuck with me. A happy, storybook ending would have been nowhere near as powerful.



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Jensau wrote:

"Michael's take that Kai played the role of the mandatory Autistic character, I think is flawed. Autistic people are withdrawn and detached from interaction with people and the world ..."

Not entirely so, afaiu.

A close friend is on the autistic / aspergers spectrum and finds that one of the major problems is what's called 'mind-blindness', ie inability to read other people's emotions. We 'normals' especially females, all take it for granted that we have a two-way interaction with anyone we're talking with f2f. There's a constant feeedback between us, with body language and subtle facial expressions that go far beyond bare language. This crucial stuff is what autistic people miss out on.

That's why autistic people by and large (though every individual's different, just like we are) suffer terribly from bullying and social isolation - heck many can't even see when someone is going to mug them, for example, because they just can't read the intent there. That's why autistic people often <i>become</i> detached and withdrawn, because non-autistic people mostly cannot understand, or are even outright intolerant, of difference.

In some ways autism is only like being a bloke - but gigatimes more so, such that i believe Prof Simon Baron-Cohen (yeah, he's Sacha's bro) has referred to autism as "hyper-maleness".

Truth is though, girls get wet for a dark and moody man, and lets face it, when you're out there a-slaughtering the opposition you don't need (or want) to empathise with the other guy, which is all doubtless why these psychological traits have proved adaptive = evolutionarily fit over history.

And now we have computers - which is where the autistic mind really wins out again.



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The Mind is fragile. That's why you must always be on guard to protect it.
The saying, put junk in, get junk out, is especially true of the Mind.

Kai, is always on guard, physically and mentally, pondering a situation before acting on it.
It takes mental fortitude to (not)live his life.
And to (not)live for his friends also.
This, by our way of thinking, is sad indeed.
But maybe, not to him.

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Michael's take that Kai played the role of the mandatory Autistic character, I think is flawed. Autistic people are withdrawn and detached from interaction with people and the world. Kai wasn't.

I see where what you mean. But, that is not always the case. My 7 year old is autistic and is very outgoing and warm towards the general populus.



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Kai - the saddest story ever?
Well, the saddest story…,it sounds more like a story of Romeo and Juliette_)
Let’s think logically:
He was born in the society that managed to fight the death.
He had been alive, he had friends (here probably we can even remember the word “comrades” as soon as they fought together later), he loved and was loved, he reached a certain (highest) level of pleasure one or two times, at least, he was the One, a chosen one and he followed his destiny. He got friends and even a family on Lexx. He died alive, he died feeling and understanding that he is dying. He feels. And let’s face the reality, thanks to the Michael McManus’s acting we have some backgrounds thoughts that he felt something all these years in an abnormal way, still he did experience some thing.
Someone’s mentioned here Spock and Data. As for me, I believe that only Data managed to stay without almost any emotions through the all episodes. Spock was far away from emotionless figure and Kai was sometimes more human in his eyes or smile than many absolutely alive people nowadays.
Btw, what if he stayed alive? I know that there are more than enough guesses and scenarios of the fifth season, but all of them offer some adventures and challenges to our beloved team. But wasn’t it enough? Probably they already had enough on the plate and deserved a right to find a new home.
I always thought that the ending of the Lexx was the best. If Kai stayed alive the first thing that was waiting for him was a wave of regrets for all those people he killed, he might have been burdened by a thought that he could have done something different. He would ask himself whether he made a right decision leaving his home. There would be lots of buts, ifs, whys in his life. At least, that’s how I feel about all these things.



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