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mayaXXX wrote: Let us just say.....*drum roll please*....that Michael has NO similarity to Kai, either in personality or physical presence when he's not on camera, so don't even look for that.  The guy is just a superb actor.

His personality in person could be described as 'quirky'..he's been known to be utterly charming when 'on', for example like a convention, but fiercely vocal when it comes to politics and/or pet projects or interests. He has described himself as being sullen, opinionated and critical. But he's also witty, somewhat goofy and knows just how to 'work a room' where there are people he wants to impress. He's also very intelligent and artistic, and has an accomplished musical background, in spite of being a math wiz. But he doesn't think much of fandoms, and has convinced himself that people that follow shows devotedly and obsessively (sound familiar?) are somewhat deluded and lacking a real life.

Hey, Shatner said it first, folks.

Hence the reluctance to get more involved with conventions, etc.

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bloodsucker wrote: Note:"bad acting and poor grasp of comic timing "were done intentionally...

Lexx was parody on shows from the fifties and sixties,where actors didn`t know how to act...

(like first "Flash Gordon" or "Angry red planet"...:)

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yeah, I get that.  I get the parody thing and I get bad early sci fi.  still, I maintain that there was some seriously bad acting (unintentional) in lexx.  not necessarily on the part of the leads ... I never said that - though the zevs had their moments :D.

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mayaXXX wrote: Well I went to IMDB to check out this Henry Cavill to see what all the fuss was about, and quite frankly, he doesn't blow my skirt up. He's ok, but I wouldn't say he was 'gorgeous', and he certainly wouldn't be able to hold a candle to Michael in his early years on Lexx. I'm sure he's a passable actor, but I'll stick with the original. If you doubt my opinion, feel free to check out "I Worship His Shadow" and see how magnificent Michael was during those scenes. He portrayed a ton more emotion than he did during the subsequent seasons after the initial movies.

Plus, his stunning profile was legenday.

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wow, nice effort :cool:.  henry cavill is ridiculously well put together, but has a face that is so close to the masculine ideal that out of context he seems almost artificial, if you will.  his perfection renders him a little colourless.  and I wouldn't go anywhere near suggesting he's an accomplished actor - far from it.  but he is a fairly humble and egoless british boy who does a passable poker face ... after the fashion of the undead. 

meanwhile, what this legendary profile you refer to?  criminal profile?  psych profile?  or 'stand sideways and do blue steel' profile?

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mayaXXX wrote: Let us just say.....*drum roll please*....that Michael has NO similarity to Kai, either in personality or physical presence when he's not on camera, so don't even look for that.  The guy is just a superb actor.

His personality in person could be described as 'quirky'..he's been known to be utterly charming when 'on', for example like a convention, but fiercely vocal when it comes to politics and/or pet projects or interests. He has described himself as being sullen, opinionated and critical. But he's also witty, somewhat goofy and knows just how to 'work a room' where there are people he wants to impress. He's also very intelligent and artistic, and has an accomplished musical background, in spite of being a math wiz. But he doesn't think much of fandoms, and has convinced himself that people that follow shows devotedly and obsessively (sound familiar?) are somewhat deluded and lacking a real life.

Hey, Shatner said it first, folks.

Hence the reluctance to get more involved with conventions, etc.

:BULLWHIP: :cat01:

 

 
sounds like an a.rsehole :bigtup:

specially given it's fairly fucking obvious to anyone with half a brain that THIS particular collection of fans is not what you'd call stupid.  so much for thundering intellects.

but that brings me to a point I'd like to labor, if ya don't mind.  I'm familiar with a variety of fanworlds, given my childlike affection for sciffy literature, and other than the small minority of 39 year old nerdboys who live in their parents' basement and collect photoshopped pics of nude seven-of-nine, a few overweight and undersocialised middle-aged women, the majority are more or less how you describe mcmanus himself.  smart, well-traveled, well-read, educated, awake to the arts, funny, and know the difference between shiraz and pinot.  maybe I'm mixing in the wrong circles? 

hehehe ... no real life ... that's very funny from where I sit.  if I had any more real life I think I'd probably go nova :bigO:

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but fiercely vocal when it comes to politics and/or pet projects or interests...

 

......My kind of guy...

 

 



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darthomatic wrote: mayaXXX wrote: Let us just say.....*drum roll please*....that Michael has NO similarity to Kai, either in personality or physical presence when he's not on camera, so don't even look for that.  The guy is just a superb actor.

His personality in person could be described as 'quirky'..he's been known to be utterly charming when 'on', for example like a convention, but fiercely vocal when it comes to politics and/or pet projects or interests. He has described himself as being sullen, opinionated and critical. But he's also witty, somewhat goofy and knows just how to 'work a room' where there are people he wants to impress. He's also very intelligent and artistic, and has an accomplished musical background, in spite of being a math wiz. But he doesn't think much of fandoms, and has convinced himself that people that follow shows devotedly and obsessively (sound familiar?) are somewhat deluded and lacking a real life.

Hey, Shatner said it first, folks.

Hence the reluctance to get more involved with conventions, etc.

:BULLWHIP: :cat01:

 

 
sounds like an a.rsehole :bigtup:

specially given it's fairly fucking obvious to anyone with half a brain that THIS particular collection of fans is not what you'd call stupid.  so much for thundering intellects.

But that brings me to a point I'd like to labor, if ya don't mind.  I'm familiar with a variety of fanworlds, given my childlike affection for sciffy literature, and other than the small minority of 39 year old nerdboys who live in their parents' basement and collect photoshopped pics of nude seven-of-nine, a few overweight and undersocialised middle-aged women, the majority are more or less how you describe mcmanus himself.  smart, well-traveled, well-read, educated, awake to the arts, funny, and know the difference between shiraz and pinot.  maybe I'm mixing in the wrong circles? 

hehehe ... no real life ... that's very funny from where I sit.  if I had any more real life I think I'd probably go nova :bigO:


Well I've been invlolved with lots of fandoms over the years, starting in the 60's (Beatles, Man from Uncle, Blakes 7, etc) and working right up to the new millenium and this is what they all have in common, especially where male stars are concerned.

Women (sometimes guys) will form groups, cults, covens, whatever you want to call them, in order to 'protect' their beloved male star from the attentions of those 'less worthy' than they think they are.  It gets so bad, that sometimes well-meaning fans are locked out of organized fan clubs because of jealousy, and a sense of proprietorship with the star that goes beyond anything close to a normal fan appreciation. That doesn't mean they're stupid or ignorant, either, most are college grads, professionals, and even work in the education system or are in the sciences.

Lexx fandom is no different. In fact, it attracts an enormous amount of the more 'disturbed' fan than any other show or actor I've ever seen.  There are legenday fan wars out on the internet about this show that would curl your hair if you knew about them. McManus himself, Brian and even Xenia have been the subject of lots of these skirmishes that have stopped short of criminal behaviour and psychotic episodes of Biblical proportions, and please don't get the idea that I'm exaggerating, anyone here can tell you about it.

  Brian has had to intervene in lots of fan politics and because of that and the constant threat of being stalked, Michael has sort of 'excused' himself from more public displays of appreciation from his fans. There was an incident in the early days of Lexx where someone quite disturbed was stalking members of the cast, including Michael, and deluded themselves into thinking they were actually a member of the cast. That's how bad it got.

So I can understand Michael  not wanting to be part of all that drama, trust me, I've seen plenty of it around this fandom and others. Just try saying anything about Alan Rickman or Johnny Depp on one of their message boards and watch the fur fly.

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mayaXXX wrote: darthomatic wrote: mayaXXX wrote: Let us just say.....*drum roll please*....that Michael has NO similarity to Kai, either in personality or physical presence when he's not on camera, so don't even look for that.  The guy is just a superb actor.

His personality in person could be described as 'quirky'..he's been known to be utterly charming when 'on', for example like a convention, but fiercely vocal when it comes to politics and/or pet projects or interests. He has described himself as being sullen, opinionated and critical. But he's also witty, somewhat goofy and knows just how to 'work a room' where there are people he wants to impress. He's also very intelligent and artistic, and has an accomplished musical background, in spite of being a math wiz. But he doesn't think much of fandoms, and has convinced himself that people that follow shows devotedly and obsessively (sound familiar?) are somewhat deluded and lacking a real life.

Hey, Shatner said it first, folks.

Hence the reluctance to get more involved with conventions, etc.

:BULLWHIP: :cat01:

 

 
sounds like an a.rsehole :bigtup:

specially given it's fairly fucking obvious to anyone with half a brain that THIS particular collection of fans is not what you'd call stupid.  so much for thundering intellects.

But that brings me to a point I'd like to labor, if ya don't mind.  I'm familiar with a variety of fanworlds, given my childlike affection for sciffy literature, and other than the small minority of 39 year old nerdboys who live in their parents' basement and collect photoshopped pics of nude seven-of-nine, a few overweight and undersocialised middle-aged women, the majority are more or less how you describe mcmanus himself.  smart, well-traveled, well-read, educated, awake to the arts, funny, and know the difference between shiraz and pinot.  maybe I'm mixing in the wrong circles? 

hehehe ... no real life ... that's very funny from where I sit.  if I had any more real life I think I'd probably go nova :bigO:


Well I've been invlolved with lots of fandoms over the years, starting in the 60's (Beatles, Man from Uncle, Blakes 7, etc) and working right up to the new millenium and this is what they all have in common, especially where male stars are concerned.

Women (sometimes guys) will form groups, cults, covens, whatever you want to call them, in order to 'protect' their beloved male star from the attentions of those 'less worthy' than they think they are.  It gets so bad, that sometimes well-meaning fans are locked out of organized fan clubs because of jealousy, and a sense of proprietorship with the star that goes beyond anything close to a normal fan appreciation. That doesn't mean they're stupid or ignorant, either, most are college grads, professionals, and even work in the education system or are in the sciences.

Lexx fandom is no different. In fact, it attracts an enormous amount of the more 'disturbed' fan than any other show or actor I've ever seen.  There are legenday fan wars out on the internet about this show that would curl your hair if you knew about them. McManus himself, Brian and even Xenia have been the subject of lots of these skirmishes that have stopped short of criminal behaviour and pyschotic episodes of Biblical proportions, and please don't get the idea that I'm exaggerating, anyone here can tell you about it.

  Brian has had to intervene in lots of fan politics and because of that and the constant threat of being stalked, Michael has sort of 'excused' himself from more public displays of appreciation from his fans. There was an incident in the early days of Lexx where someone quite disturbed was stalking members of the cast, including Michael, and deluded themselves into thinking they were actually a member of the cast. That's how bad it got.

So I can understand Michael  not wanting to be part of all that drama, trust me, I've seen plenty of it around this fandom and others. Just try saying anything about Alan Rickman or Johnny Depp on one of their message boards and watch the fur fly.

:LogoLexx::coolcarrot:

 
I may joke about putting a tranquiler dart in his ass but in all honesty if I ever bumped into him somewhere I'd say hello, let him know I appreciate the work he does and leave him alone.  Too often fans get to the point where they feel they are "owed", even the ones who aren't psychotic.

I mean put yourself in their place for a moment.  How long would it take for you to get tired of having people fawning over you, interrupting you and imposing themselves on time you may be trying to spend with your family.  Or time you are just trying to let off some stress. 

So I can understand the need to be a bit aloof.  After all he does (I hope) have a personal life and I can relate to the need to keep that separate from his public persona.  The obsessed and psychotic fans can't separate the public persona from the private person and that does cause a lot of drama if the celeb is lucky.  If they aren't lucky they end up dealing with a crazy stalker.



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Once you meet, Michael, Brian and Xenia, they're just regular folks like you and me, and when you see them in Lexx again, it's like, "Oh, that's Michael." I think in a way you can appreciate them more for what they've done.



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Angel wrote: Once you meet, Michael, Brian and Xenia, they're just regular folks like you and me, and when you see them in Lexx again, it's like, "Oh, that's Michael." I think in a way you can appreciate them more for what they've done.I have met quite a few people that could be called celebs some local some more widely known (after all it's not uncommon in San Antonio to bump into one of the Spurs out and about) and they are simply people like us the difference is in what they do for a living.

I've met quite a few that  are kind of on a par with Michael in experience level (some film and TV but mostly theater work) and most of them are great people you have a blast hanging out with.  And it is great to see them in something that's pretty well known.

 



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Abby1964 wrote: Angel wrote: Once you meet, Michael, Brian and Xenia, they're just regular folks like you and me, and when you see them in Lexx again, it's like, "Oh, that's Michael." I think in a way you can appreciate them more for what they've done.I have met quite a few people that could be called celebs some local some more widely known (after all it's not uncommon in San Antonio to bump into one of the Spurs out and about) and they are simply people like us the difference is in what they do for a living.

I've met quite a few that  are kind of on a par with Michael in experience level (some film and TV but mostly theater work) and most of them are great people you have a blast hanging out with.  And it is great to see them in something that's pretty well known.

 

oh I'm across the whole famous peep thing, trust me.  related to one such, in fact.  very closely, ya might say :cool:.  I get the pressures, I just don't care.  if you elect to pursue a career in the spotlight, suck it up and don't expect basement dwelling nutbars to 'understand'. 

in the meantime, who are the san antonio spurs?  are they hunky football players? :bigsarc:

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mayaXXX wrote: darthomatic wrote: mayaXXX wrote: Let us just say.....*drum roll please*....that Michael has NO similarity to Kai, either in personality or physical presence when he's not on camera, so don't even look for that.  The guy is just a superb actor.

His personality in person could be described as 'quirky'..he's been known to be utterly charming when 'on', for example like a convention, but fiercely vocal when it comes to politics and/or pet projects or interests. He has described himself as being sullen, opinionated and critical. But he's also witty, somewhat goofy and knows just how to 'work a room' where there are people he wants to impress. He's also very intelligent and artistic, and has an accomplished musical background, in spite of being a math wiz. But he doesn't think much of fandoms, and has convinced himself that people that follow shows devotedly and obsessively (sound familiar?) are somewhat deluded and lacking a real life.

Hey, Shatner said it first, folks.

Hence the reluctance to get more involved with conventions, etc.

:BULLWHIP: :cat01:

 

 
sounds like an a.rsehole :bigtup:

specially given it's fairly fucking obvious to anyone with half a brain that THIS particular collection of fans is not what you'd call stupid.  so much for thundering intellects.

But that brings me to a point I'd like to labor, if ya don't mind.  I'm familiar with a variety of fanworlds, given my childlike affection for sciffy literature, and other than the small minority of 39 year old nerdboys who live in their parents' basement and collect photoshopped pics of nude seven-of-nine, a few overweight and undersocialised middle-aged women, the majority are more or less how you describe mcmanus himself.  smart, well-traveled, well-read, educated, awake to the arts, funny, and know the difference between shiraz and pinot.  maybe I'm mixing in the wrong circles? 

hehehe ... no real life ... that's very funny from where I sit.  if I had any more real life I think I'd probably go nova :bigO:


Well I've been invlolved with lots of fandoms over the years, starting in the 60's (Beatles, Man from Uncle, Blakes 7, etc) and working right up to the new millenium and this is what they all have in common, especially where male stars are concerned.

Women (sometimes guys) will form groups, cults, covens, whatever you want to call them, in order to 'protect' their beloved male star from the attentions of those 'less worthy' than they think they are.  It gets so bad, that sometimes well-meaning fans are locked out of organized fan clubs because of jealousy, and a sense of proprietorship with the star that goes beyond anything close to a normal fan appreciation. That doesn't mean they're stupid or ignorant, either, most are college grads, professionals, and even work in the education system or are in the sciences.

Lexx fandom is no different. In fact, it attracts an enormous amount of the more 'disturbed' fan than any other show or actor I've ever seen.  There are legenday fan wars out on the internet about this show that would curl your hair if you knew about them. McManus himself, Brian and even Xenia have been the subject of lots of these skirmishes that have stopped short of criminal behaviour and psychotic episodes of Biblical proportions, and please don't get the idea that I'm exaggerating, anyone here can tell you about it.

  Brian has had to intervene in lots of fan politics and because of that and the constant threat of being stalked, Michael has sort of 'excused' himself from more public displays of appreciation from his fans. There was an incident in the early days of Lexx where someone quite disturbed was stalking members of the cast, including Michael, and deluded themselves into thinking they were actually a member of the cast. That's how bad it got.

So I can understand Michael  not wanting to be part of all that drama, trust me, I've seen plenty of it around this fandom and others. Just try saying anything about Alan Rickman or Johnny Depp on one of their message boards and watch the fur fly.

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ai carumba!

 
so lexx has a special brand of lunatic fan - interesting.  spose that's the fame game though, eh?  though this proprietary thing that some of the more ....... ahem ...... ardent fans have going is just plain strange, but at the same time strangely fascinating - oh to be a fly on the wall :D

meanwhile it would seem I know very little, comparatively, about fandom.  my experience hasn't been with fans of individuals, but rather ffans of franchises and concepts, if you will.  various sci fi, a few tv shows, music, foodies, greenies, politics, literature, one or two for particular movies that had great impact, etc etc.  now that I think about it, none have made an individual the focus in a 'bad' way.  even when lust was involved, it's been all very much in good fun, and from people who simply enjoy a bit of 'fine specimen appreciation' on the side.  like moi :bigsarc:

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darthomatic wrote: Abby1964 wrote: Angel wrote: Once you meet, Michael, Brian and Xenia, they're just regular folks like you and me, and when you see them in Lexx again, it's like, "Oh, that's Michael." I think in a way you can appreciate them more for what they've done.I have met quite a few people that could be called celebs some local some more widely known (after all it's not uncommon in San Antonio to bump into one of the Spurs out and about) and they are simply people like us the difference is in what they do for a living.

I've met quite a few that  are kind of on a par with Michael in experience level (some film and TV but mostly theater work) and most of them are great people you have a blast hanging out with.  And it is great to see them in something that's pretty well known.

 

oh I'm across the whole famous peep thing, trust me.  related to one such, in fact.  very closely, ya might say :cool:.  I get the pressures, I just don't care.  if you elect to pursue a career in the spotlight, suck it up and don't expect basement dwelling nutbars to 'understand'. 

in the meantime, who are the san antonio spurs?  are they hunky football players? :bigsarc:
Close, basketball and be glad you're not a San Antonian we'd have to drag you out behind the barn and shoot you for even asking!  :bigO:The Spurs are like a religion around here.  Although hunkiness is not their strong suit except for Tony Parker and Eva Langoria scarfed him up!  I guess it's a good thing they've got skills on the court!



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I'm not even in the same hemisphere, so cut me a little slack :D

basketballers, eh?  not my cup of earl grey, but can see how they'd stand out in a crowd.  I look to the tour de france for sports appreciation.  tight buns, killer legs and bike shorts.  filmed from behind ....

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Hehehe...you said 'drag'...

 
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