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Hi guys and girls!

I have just recently watched season 1,2 and nearly finished season 3 thanks to a friend who has leant me his DVD set.  I was thinking of buying my own set but wondered what the current state of things is with home video releases....

My friends set is the Australian release by Force Video.  It is I believe "complete" but for a small edit in season 1 where they cut some Zev nudity - see here: http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Censorship/CensorshipDetail.asp?ID=24809

And apparently the German release is even more heavily edited :(  I can live without the Zev nudity, but I hate buying "cut" DVD's...  so I am wondering are there any "uncut" releases of season 1?

I am also into in Hi Def (Blu ray), and I understand that season 3 + 4 were done in Hi Def.  I guess season 3 + 4 were in wide screen (16x9) ratio? Any news or rumours on a possible Blu ray release in the future? 

I look forward to talking with you all :)

BunnyFan aka Darren.

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Hey Welcome, Bunny..

As for the DVDs, here's the 411.

NO HD versions are available. W hich is sad really, when you realize that S3 was FILMED in HD in Germany, just not recorded on DVD as such, for some silly reason. S4 was NOT filmed in Hi-Def, it was filmed in regular filmstock.

As for uncut S1 dvds, there are several Ebay sources still selling S1 dvds, BUT they are mostly Region 1. The reason is, it's a Canadian release, and a Canadian company that made them and they are now out of print, so if you want them, in any format, this is about the only way to find them. I hope you can get your hands on a non-region format dvd player, and then you're in business.

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mayaXXX wrote: Hey Welcome, Bunny..

As for the DVDs, here's the 411.

NO HD versions are available. W hich is sad really, when you realize that S3 was FILMED in HD in Germany, just not recorded on DVD as such, for some silly reason. S4 was NOT filmed in Hi-Def, it was filmed in regular filmstock.

As for uncut S1 dvds, there are several Ebay sources still selling S1 dvds, BUT they are mostly Region 1. The reason is, it's a Canadian release, and a Canadian company that made them and they are now out of print, so if you want them, in any format, this is about the only way to find them. I hope you can get your hands on a non-region format dvd player, and then you're in business.

Thanks Maya :)

So am I correct in understanding that the Canadian release is not cut in the same way that the Australian release is?

Interesting that they did season 3 in HD and season 4 not...   I wonder what inspired them to do that?

I have a multi-region DVD player so I will keep an eye out for the Canadian season 1, but from the prices I see on ebay it may be a bit too rich for my blood :(

Talk soon,

BunnyFan.

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Varrtan wrote: If things were filmed on film stock, shouldn't that be very high definition (if someone were to digitize it)?
Hi Vartan,

yes if something was filmed on "filmstock" (as in typical "movie" film like 35mm) it is higher resolution than Hi Def home video and as such can be made into 1080p (Blu ray), but I think Maya means that seasons 1,2 + 4 were filmed on standard def digital cameras, which are not like regular movie filmstock, and are strictly "standard def".

Best,

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Another question (I understand if no one knows the answer :)),

was Lexx filmed in PAL (Higher Resolution than NTSC), or was it filmed in NTSC?

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Hi Bunnyfan, welcome to Lexxverse. I assume it was filmed in NTSC since the bulk of it was filmed in Canada. The NTSC format of Lexx is completely uncut, and unfortunately season 1 is out of print and ebay is really about the only place to find it anymore, and the prices have skyrocketed the past couple of years for all the movies.

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Angel wrote: Hi Bunnyfan, welcome to Lexxverse. I assume it was filmed in NTSC since the bulk of it was filmed in Canada. The NTSC format of Lexx is completely uncut, and unfortunately season 1 is out of print and ebay is really about the only place to find it anymore, and the prices have skyrocketed the past couple of years for all the movies.

Thanks Angel,

perhaps there will be a reprinting of the NTSC disks in the not too distant future...  What do you think?

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Koch did the release of the movies and from everything I've seen and heard over the years, that's it.

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The sales of the dvds abroad and in the US were not stellar, and in fact, in some countries, S3 and S4 never got released in those areas at all. The movies and S2-4 were released by 2 different DVD companies, and not in conjunction with each other.

S2-4 were released thru Acorn, and you can still find some of those in the bigger electronics discount places. S1 was released only by Koch from Canada, and it's not being reiussed. The sales just did not make it a profitable venture to do a reissue, not enough demand. Most of the Lexx fans that want the dvds already have them, and thanks to sites that allow you to download them online, the sales of the domestic dvds have dropped dramatically.

Also, the people doing the production on S3 and S4 were different, and S4 had a MUCH smaller budget to work with, that's why it didn't get a Hi-Def treatement. It would have meant only 13 episodes instead of 24.  Since the Hii-Def wasn't visible in the US anyway, (or on the dvds) it would have been an enormous waste of money to film it that way. In Germany, only a handful of people actually got to see the benefits of the Hi-Def filming. The majority of the viewers noticed no difference.

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mayaXXX wrote: and thanks to sites that allow you to download them online, the sales of the domestic dvds have dropped dramatically.

Also, the people doing the production on S3 and S4 were different, and S4 had a MUCH smaller budget to work with, that's why it didn't get a Hi-Def treatement. It would have meant only 13 episodes instead of 24.  Since the Hii-Def wasn't visible in the US anyway, (or on the dvds) it would have been an enormous waste of money to film it that way. In Germany, only a handful of people actually got to see the benefits of the Hi-Def filming. The majority of the viewers noticed no difference.


Wonder why they allowed them to be made available online?

Did the Germans see it broadcast in Hi Def?  Did they get it in the usual Hi Def 16x9 ratio, or did they get it cropped for 4x3?  Wondering what the directors "intended ratio" was for season 3?

Having watched seasons 1,2 + 3 on the Australian DVD's, even though they were all only in standard def, I can say that season 3's video quality is MUCH better than season 1 + 2 :)

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From what I understand, they didn't 'allow' them to be made available online, they just showed up that way. Even Michael McManus mentioned having downloaded them from Bit Torrent because he never bothered to pick up the dvds when they came out, and  no one ever sent him a set.

As for the aspect ratio, I have no idea what the intent was, I never talked to anyone in Germany that actually saw any of the episodes from S3 in Hi-Def, and in fact, the only person that might know that information is probably Brian Downey, (that is, if you want to actually TALK to someone) You might try Brian's own board, he answers technical questions about the filming of Lexx all the time.

My DVDs of S3 are better than S2, (anything was, really) but I can't really tell much difference from S3-S4 in quality.

I preferred S1's film quality because it was actually shot as movies instead of 'for television' and the sets and quality of the color are remarkably better. You might have to spring for a set of S1 DVDs just to see the better quality of the production.

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mayaXXX wrote: You might try Brian's own board, he answers technical questions about the filming of Lexx all the time.

 

Thanks Maya,  I will pop over there soon :)

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LEXX SEASON I - USA EDITION!!! (Pre-Order)

If any of you visited eBay today you may have noticed a bunch of new auctions claiming to be pre-orders for Season 1 LEXX USA Edition. I tracked it down and it appears to be legitimate!! (A 4-Pack that includes All 4 Movies!)

 

https://www.echobridgeentertainment.com/dvd/Lexx_Season_1_71239

 

Will Wonders Never Cease!
On their home page there is a press announcement that "Echo Bridge Entertainment is Pleased to Announce that it has entered an Agreement to Acquire ALLIANCE ATLANTIS International Distribution."


I notice there is a picture of Xenia on the DVD cover though it correctly lists Eva as cast.

At the least - I hope this puts a hole in the price-gouging that often goes on for these 4 volumes on Ebay, and may it also give more widespread public distribution to our beloved Epic Series, though it may be too soon to tell if these will begin appearing at such stores as Best Buy.


"Synopsis
Hailed as "the most imaginative Sci-Fi since The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" (New York Daily News)..."


LEXX Continues... !!!:bounce_pinka:

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That's wonderful news, isn't it! It's good to see it being released again at a reasonable price for those that don't have it.

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How much are they asking on ebay?

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As the release date for this is OCTOBER 7th, there appears to be just one Ebay Store Seller right now, "Digitaldogpounddvd" but they have over a half dozen auctions that are also available for "Buy-It-Now" (I nabbed one). (They also have very high feedback,  4,424 with a 99.8 % positive, which kinda indicates this seller has a high reliability).  As the release date gets closer surely more sellers will get into the act. (and Amazon and others very likely.).

This seller varies the auctions from about $26.50 to $28 for auctions, and all auctions are available for "Buy-It-Now" at about $29, with postage at $2.98, for the BOX SET which contains ALL FOUR LEXX SEASON ONE MOVIES. (So it totals about $32 for all 4, meaning about $8 a DVD, just $8 to Worship a Divine Shadow, watch a Super Nova, dine on Pattern or a GigaShadow. :cool:). (My email from the seller stated "Free Shipping" for all additional purchases (USA) from their store when paid for at the same time.)

They have auctions ending as early as tomorrow all the way to 6 days away, and likely to continue adding after that. A typical LEXX auction is below, (I picked one 6 days away so the link will stay alive for a while):

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lexx-First-Season-DVD-NEW-1st-Sci-Fi-drama-brian-Downey_W0QQitemZ200254948821QQihZ010QQcategoryZ617QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

Happy Hunting!!

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Thanks for the follow-up, XS4Xevr, if you check the "Lexxy items for sale' thread, we posted the links to the Amazon.com site and the site at Echo Bridge. Apparently EB bought up a ton of Alliance stuff, not just Lexx, and will be reissuing them.

Amazon.com has put up cover art for all the DVD's coming out over at IMDB.com.

 

 

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Thanks XS4Xevr,

when you get it please let us know if it is the uncut version (or not).

Pity about the ebay seller as their international postage is a bit too high.

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Hey Bunnyfan, check out Amazon.com and probably Deepdiscountdvd.com prett soon as well. The shipping at DDD is free and Amazon charges reasonable rates. No need to deal with an Ebay site with questionable shipping.

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I have all the UK releases, and as far as I can tell they are completely uncut. There is certainly nudity in the shower scene.

I had to import the Australian release of Season 4, I was so thankful that it finally became available!

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It can be pre-ordered for US $22.79 at http://www.dvdpacific.com

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I just got an email this morning from Amazon.com You can now pre-order S1 DVD set at discount.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DF681G/ref=pe_5140_10349560_pe_snp_81G

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Anyone have the 411 on the US DVD's of the first four films? Are they the genuine article or are they bootleg? I really want to own them but I cant pay sixty bucks for one movie! I mean Lexx is great but school and eating come first!

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What's coming out soon from echobridge which you will be able to buy at amazon is the real deal. They bought the rights to distribute it.

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Such a pity about the cover though.

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Thanks alot for the info, I'll preorder now!

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I just sent this email to Echo bridge:

Hi,
 
can you please tell me, regarding your upcoming Oct release of Lexx Season 1...
 
Will the DVD's feature the special features (interviews) found on  the previous US DVD release?
 
And will they be uncut as were the previous US release? (some overseas releases were cut).
 
Also, are you aware than Xenia Seeberg was not in season 1?  You have her on the cover of the DVD set.  The actress in season 1 was Eva Habermann.
 
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Well the email might be confusing to them considering there never was a Season 1 released in the US. There was a Canadian release thru Koch, but not in the US until Season 2, and that was Acorn. As for the Xenia pic on the covers, several people have mentioned it to Echo with no response.  Hopefully they'll include the extras in the Koch dvd versions, but if they don't, there's not much we can do about it.

Personally I was hoping for widescreen, but that's not going to happen either.

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I sent through a "correction" email re Koch/Canada.  Yes I also emailed them a few weeks back regarding possible Blu ray releases of the series and got no response :-(  But I don't think season one was made for widescreen or Hi Def so it's not a biggie.



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Well the email might be confusing to them considering there never was a Season 1 released in the US. There was a Canadian release thru Koch, but not in the US until Season 2, and that was Acorn. As for the Xenia pic on the covers, several people have mentioned it to Echo with no response.  Hopefully they'll include the extras in the Koch dvd versions, but if they don't, there's not much we can do about it.

Personally I was hoping for widescreen, but that's not going to happen either.

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Well season 3 was filmed in Hi-Def, but I doubt we'll see a Blu-Ray version of it, the series is just not popular enough to warrant spending a fortune on putting out HI-def versions on DVD. Widescreen is something they could have managed though and I would have been happy with that.

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The hi-def thing won't bother me but I REALLY hope that it is uncut and has the special features. I went ahead and preorded since I don't own them yet and I have never seen Eating Pattern or Supernova which really sucks because I love this show! 

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I ordered Season One from dvdpacific last night for $22.79.  Might take a week or so to arrive (I'm in Australia).

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Pretty good deal. I'm glad to season season one is getting re-released now so that people can afford them.

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Angel wrote: Pretty good deal. I'm glad to season season one is getting re-released now so that people can afford them.
I wonder if they will release the other 3 seasons....

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You can get the other 3 seasons just about anywhere, reasonably priced.

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Angel wrote: You can get the other 3 seasons just about anywhere, reasonably priced.

I know I can buy them in Australia - with great PQ, but I am concerned that they may be somewhat 'cut'.

I've read that the US ones are not cut, but also read that the PQ on a few seasons is poor...   am a little confused and wondering if this company will bring something new to the table....

 

 

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Well as far as PQ is concerned, the first season as actually shot as film for Showtime, and the quality is great. S2 is pretty grainy in many episodes and I'm not sure if any sort of remastering will accomplish a change, I doubt they're going to go to alot of extra expense for what is essentially a catalog item. Season 3 is much better quality as is Season 4.

As far as I know, none of the UK, US, or Canadian dvds have ever been cut. If someone in Oz is cutting them, I'm sure it has something to do with local censors and not the manufacturer. I haven't seen anyone claim that any of the dvds have been cut from the originals and given an example of the cuts. You just really won't know til  you buy them.

Alot of  folks forget that this company is not just reissuing Lexx, but a ton of other catalog titles that Alliance had, check out their website and you'll see that the Lexx reissues are really not given much hype. I guess we should be grateful for what they'll do.

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They were released yesterday so I should get it about Saturday, Monday at the latest.

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mayaXXX wrote: Well as far as PQ is concerned, the first season as actually shot as film for Showtime, and the quality is great. S2 is pretty grainy in many episodes and I'm not sure if any sort of remastering will accomplish a change, I doubt they're going to go to alot of extra expense for what is essentially a catalog item. Season 3 is much better quality as is Season 4.

As far as I know, none of the UK, US, or Canadian dvds have ever been cut. If someone in Oz is cutting them, I'm sure it has something to do with local censors and not the manufacturer. I haven't seen anyone claim that any of the dvds have been cut from the originals and given an example of the cuts. You just really won't know til  you buy them.

Alot of  folks forget that this company is not just reissuing Lexx, but a ton of other catalog titles that Alliance had, check out their website and you'll see that the Lexx reissues are really not given much hype. I guess we should be grateful for what they'll do.

The Lexx Season's PQ on DVD in Australia (as I recall):  Season One looked good, Season Two looked just OK, Season Three looked excellent and Season Four looked excellent.

If season One was shot on real film it "could" be released in Hi Def (although all the special digital effects were probably done in standard def).  Of course we know Season 3 could be done in Hi Def too.  But that is not something I actually expect to happen - at least not for a long time.

The only cuts in Aus that I know of are cuts to Season One.  I haven't read about cuts to other seasons - but there may be...  just haven't read about them.

Known cuts to the Australian Season One DVD set:

1) A Zev shower scene is subtly reshot/reframed, and 2) a scene showing the divine shadow's brain being removed is cut/not shown...

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The PQ you mentioned pretty much fits in with what I've seen on different versions of the DVDs so far.

As for the Hi def thing, don't hold your breath. They're not making Hi-Def versions on every new movie out there, so I doubt seriously they'd go to the tremendous expense to put Lexx out in Hi-def at all. Even though S3 was shot in Hi-Def, it wasn't ever SHOWN in Hi-Def in either Canada or the US, only Germany and I don't know of anyone that had a Hi-Def TV at the time to see any difference.

 It was also not mastered for Hi-Def for the original  DVD's being as how that wasn't a format readily available at the time. It all comes down to cost effectiveness, and a DVD that has been out for about  6 years  and sold as much as it's had, isn't profitable considering not every Lexx fan even HAS a Hi-Def player or TV, much less wants to re-buy the DVDs again.

BTW, ask me how many times I've re-bought Blade Runner in different formats.... (Beta, VHS, SuperVHS, Laserdisc, VCD, DVD, DTS, Hi-Def) That might be the only exception to that rule. :) It's like buying the Beatles "White" album over and over again, because of format changes...

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I;m pretty easy to please when it comes to formats. Some movies I have upgraded from VHS to DVD, but some I havn't even bothered to do that. Technology with constantly improve so I have burning desire to keep up with it, as long as I can watch it in at a certain level of quality I'm happy.

One thing that gets me very :u055a:  however is censorship and editing. We are adults, we can handle it for God's sake stop butching art!

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I agree, it's not like we're 7 years old and will get nightmares from seeing some of this stuff...

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1.3 (the third Movie) was heavily cut in Germany. That's why I spend 70 Euro buying half of S1 via Internet on DVD with RC2. But the Shop who did the searching for me was closed. So I still don't have the other half of S1 or the other Seasons on DVD.

The quality of the movies I got is pretty good.

When S2 and S3 were broadcasted on SciFi (Premiere) with SAP, I TiVoed (wow - is THAT term right?) most of it but there is no way to put it on DVD because the TiVo is part of my Premiere-decoder.

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Talena wrote: When S2 and S3 were broadcasted on SciFi (Premiere) with SAP, I TiVoed (wow - is THAT term right?) most of it but there is no way to put it on DVD because the TiVo is part of my Premiere-decoder.
Talena, was Season 3 broadcast in 4x3 (square) or 16x9 (widescreen) aspect ratio?

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I just got the copy of S1 I ordered and it does not appear to come with the special features. I have only popped in the 1st disk so far so I'm not 100%. Either way I'm happy!

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Hey cool! So is it just the movies and no extras?

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Nope, unfortunately not, the movies are uncut though so everything from the original airing is there. Did the other release(s) contain the special features? If so do you know anywhere I could watch them?

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What's the PQ like?

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Mana: 
I think someone said that Joost had them online, but I'm not sure. I know they had the TV versions up for viewing.

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Mana: 
The picture is pretty good, it's not the best I have ever seen but is at least as good as the original airings maybe better. I have watched through IWHS and Supernova and have noticed a couple glitches (2 or 3 if my memory serves me), nothing bad enough to really detract from the whole.

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Snow_Nine wrote: I have watched through IWHS and Supernova and have noticed a couple glitches (2 or 3 if my memory serves me), nothing bad enough to really detract from the whole.
Please elaborate...

Last edited on Sat Oct 18th, 2008 03:27 am by bunnyfan

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Mana: 
Forgive me for not knowing the technical name for this, I'll try to explain it the best I can. There are a couple spots where the transition between frames was a little jerky, causing a brief lag like effect between a few frames that caused the picture to momentarily freeze/ shake a little. One occurs in Supernova when Stan is talking, I don't remember the other. They only last for a fraction of a second but it is noticable (to me at least). I hope that explained it. As you can probably tell I'm not good at describing technical problems.

Last edited on Sun Oct 19th, 2008 08:39 am by Snow_Nine

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Mana: 
Thanks for the explanation Snow_Nine :)

Sometimes this is disk based, sometimes player based.  I don't remember it on the Aus version I have watched, but I will keep an eye out for it (out of curiosity).

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Mana: 
Hm I don't know exactly, but since I don't have any black bars on my TV while playing S3 I think it was broadcasted in 4x3

(10 Years old TV, no 16x9)

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Talena wrote: Hm I don't know exactly, but since I don't have any black bars on my TV while playing S3 I think it was broadcasted in 4x3

(10 Years old TV, no 16x9)

Thanks for the info Talena :)

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Mana: 
Well I recieved season 1.  Beautiful packaging!  It has a wonderful 3 dimensional textured surface on the slip case.  For instance the Lexx rises up from the surface.   I was really pleasantly surprised how nice it is.  What a pity they messed that wonderful work up with the wrong actresses face on it!!!

The DVD's look very nice PQ wise.  AS snow nine said they are the original uncut versions.  The old extras are missing though.

The menu is archaic - looks like the sort of menu you could make with your free program that comes with your pc - on your first ever effort.  Compared to the beautiful menu system on the Australian DVD's it is awful.  But this is a minor issue really.

I am VERY HAPPY with the set :bounce_pinka:



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