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Any Trekkies out there besides me :)
So what's your favorite Trek series?

I love all the series, except for Voyager. I could never get into that show. DS9 is my second favorite. But my #1 is Enterprise! :D  I am a huge ENT fan and an Archer/T'Pol shipper. :888:

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Actually I used be a trekker not trekkie.

My favorite series would have to be the Original series.

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I am always curious to know why some fans call themselves Trekkers and others Trekkies? Honestly, I don't know why I call myself a trekkie as opposed to a trekker, i just like the way it sounds better I think. IIRC Trekkie was the original term from the 60/70s and Trekker was from the 80s.

DFG is there a particular reason why you consider yourself a trekker and not a trekkie?

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I really liked Enterprice, TNG and Voyager, and I watched DSP the first few seasons, then just couldn't get into it anymore, and of course I've seen all of the original in re-runs.  I really like the star trek series, but just never was a big enough fan to become a trekkie/trekker.  By the way Scott Bakula is what really drew me to the show, then I just really liked the series after watching it.

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aeonflux wrote: I am always curious to know why some fans call themselves Trekkers and others Trekkies? Honestly, I don't know why I call myself a trekkie as opposed to a trekker, i just like the way it sounds better I think. IIRC Trekkie was the original term from the 60/70s and Trekker was from the 80s.

DFG is there a particular reason why you consider yourself a trekker and not a trekkie?


I once consider myself as a trekker because that's what I and my fellow Trek fans were called and yes it would of been back in the 80's.  I attended loads conventions in the UK and good friend of mine used to go to American cons.

It was put about by the press the trekkie thing and I remember once when Patrick Stewart was been interviewed on tv and the interviewer said trekkie and Patrick corrected him and they perfer to be called Trekkers.  It matter know more really.  I was really joking but you wanted know.

I don't do conventions anymore but I still have some links with other fans who are still into it.

Here's a piccy of one of my many favorite classic trek eppy's City I call it for short

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I am a Trekkie/Trekker..........oh yeah..........

 

more later...

 

I like this thread....good idea so we can write about other sciFi-series too

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yeah, I agree...  me too. long time ST fan... I started watching TOS in the late 70s, continued with all eps of TNG (still my fave series of all) and then watched all DSN and most VOY eps...but I really don't like the latest series. it would be nice to know which one's your favorite series. :)

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I am a Trekkie/Trekker..........oh yeah..........

 

more later...

 

I like this thread....good idea so we can write about other sciFi-series too

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Serieswise, I lean slightly more to the Original Series. But I have watched most all of the spinoffs eps, except I only got to see the first season of Enterprise because of switching to satellite from cable and that cut the channel it was on. Much later on I saw a commercial with clips for the DVD set and liked what I saw enough to buy the S4 DVD box of Enterprise, just to get the Season 4 2-part episode called "IN A MIRROR, DARKLY" (My only DVD set of any TREK). That ties all the way back to an episode from the OS, called "The Tholian Web". The Mirror Universe has become my favorite trekkin vacation spot, and the most beautiful mirror creature below would made the ultimate Perfect Captain of the USS DEFIANT (yep -it's the very one that vanished in the OS)! {She has just got to be the most yummy Trek femme ever!}



(Heartbreak that T'Pol only looked like that for just 2 eps!)

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I was a trekker for many years and my fav was TNG. But I also like DS9 and later enjoyed watching the new series Enterprise. But my all time favorite would be TNG, because I really like its captain J. L. Picard ;-)

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I always loved watching Star Trek as a kid (TOS was all there was at that time) and got into Trekdom around the time I finished school. I went to a few conventions, got to meet Jimmy Doohan and (sort of) William Shatner, and met some people who still are my friends now. My favourite memory is Jimmy D. standing in the yard of the youth hostel in Nuremberg, where one of the cons took place, and passing out cake to the fans. Someone had baked that big tart with the Enterprise on it, it was amazing.

TOS is still my favourite series. Maybe I love Kai because I always loved Spock as a kid. I seem to have a liking for the... errm, feeling-impaired. :P

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XS4Xevr wrote: The Mirror Universe has become my favorite trekkin vacation spot, and the most beautiful mirror creature below would made the ultimate Perfect Captain of the USS DEFIANT (yep -it's the very one that vanished in the OS)! {She has just got to be the most yummy Trek femme ever!}



(Heartbreak that T'Pol only looked like that for just 2 eps!)

YAY!! I couldn't agree more! I am a totally crazy T'Pol fan - she is my favorite Star Trek character ever. And I loved the MU episodes as well, so much fun. Here is a great pic of T'Pol from the MU:



Also, you should check out my Videos I have a few with MU T'Pol in them :)

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I thought the Mirror Darkly was written and based on the TOS eppy Mirror Mirror, ISS Enterprise.  Another of my favorites.

Where as Tholian Web eppy, the crew of the Enterprise NCC 1701 finding Defiant in Tholian Space.

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You are both correct - The first ep was based more on Mirror Mirror and the second ep was based more on Tholian Web.

I enjoyed ENT's MU eps immensely. Many fans didn't like them because the crews from both universes don't meet. I actually like that quite a bit and thought it was a refreshing idea to have the eps based completely in the MU and have no interactions with the other universe.

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I found this amazing music vid today. This video fing rocks! The effects and editing are brilliant. By far the best vid I have ever seen.
It's a Kirk/Spock vid to the song Closer by Nine Inch Nails.

WARNING! - This is a slash vid. And if you don't know the song it's pretty hard core and contains the F word. If this offends you please don't watch the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XwdkxPQCzY

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LOL! I guess Spock and Kirk were alot closer than anyone realized. :shock:

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Oh that slash vids been around for ages. 

I used to read slash trek once and it's right funny.  Kirk is definately a Lady's man, it's the stress of his job see, he needs a lady's touch.

 

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Well that vid is new to me :D

I haven't read any Kirk/Spock slash. I have read a few ENT slash fics. The best one I have ever read was Isosceles which is a Archer/T'Pol/Trip fic. It's really very very good!

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aeonflux wrote: I am always curious to know why some fans call themselves Trekkers and others Trekkies? Honestly, I don't know why I call myself a trekkie as opposed to a trekker, i just like the way it sounds better I think. IIRC Trekkie was the original term from the 60/70s and Trekker was from the 80s.

DFG is there a particular reason why you consider yourself a trekker and not a trekkie?


Actually, this debate goes back to the '70s, and has more to do with eliteism than anything else.

The term "Trekker" is meant to portray a less "fannish", more mature aspect of ST fandom, whereas "Trekkies" were considered drooling geeks(me!,me!). And "Trekkie" was the term those outside of the ST circles tended to use to describe fans. Mainly by science fiction fans that considered the show beneath them.

It kinda reminds me of when the Sci-Fi Network premiered. Most fans at that time referred to science fiction as SF - Sci-Fi was a term that Forrest J. Ackerman coined in the late '50s (pronounced "skiffy"), and a lot of folks were up in arms over it, due to the fact that FJA edited "Famous Monsters of Filmland", a rather juvenile publiction. The hard-core fans at the time had a problem with the connotations of the term, and resisted it for years. If you used that word, you weren't "one of us". Imagine the dismay of fandom when the Sci-Fi Network made the term mainstream!

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Thanks for the explanation eLNunn. I proudly call myself a Trekkie :)

Ok Impromptu Poll since I don't think I can make a poll inside a post.

Rank the series by your prefences.

Mine:

1. ENT
2. DS9 and TOS (tie)
3. TNG
4. VOY

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Mirror Mirror on the wall, which Universe is fairest of them all?


STAR TREK ENTERPRISE
(Sci-Fi Channel, Times for US E.T.s)
01/08/2007 07:00 PM BROKEN BOW - PT 1
01/08/2007 08:00 PM BROKEN BOW - PT 2
01/08/2007 09:00 PM FIGHT OF FLIGHT
01/08/2007 10:00 PM STRANGE NEW WORLD
01/15/2007 07:00 PM UNEXPECTED
01/15/2007 08:00 PM TERRA NOVA
01/15/2007 09:00 PM THE ANDORIAN INCIDENT
01/15/2007 10:00 PM BREAKING THE ICE
01/22/2007 07:00 PM CIVILIZATION
01/22/2007 08:00 PM FORTUNATE SON
01/22/2007 09:00 PM COLD FRONT
01/22/2007 10:00 PM SILENT ENEMY
01/29/2007 07:00 PM DEAR DOCTOR
01/29/2007 08:00 PM SLEEPING DOGS
01/29/2007 09:00 PM SHADOWS OF P'JEM
01/29/2007 10:00 PM SHUTTLEPOD ONE


(Looks like it may take a while for them to arrive at that Mirror Universe for us to make comparisons, but at least they have finally arrived for us to see! Captain Archer you can now release that sublight space junk that finally managed to tow ya'll all the way to the Sci-Fi Channel!)


 

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Well at least they are showing the eps in order. When ENT was in syndication on the regular channels they were showing eps all out of order. Hope they get some new viewers on the Scifi Channel :)

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Some of you may have already seen this before but some of you have not.  Yeah you can all have a good laugh.  Well I once was mad on classic trek and my auntie made me this dress, without a pattern, so she was very clever to be able to do this.

I was 19 years old there but many ppl tell me I look only 12, lol.  I was once very slim too.


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Dragonflygurl wrote: Some of you may have already seen this before but some of you have not.  Yeah you can all have a good laugh.  Well I once was mad on classic trek and my auntie made me this dress, without a pattern, so she was very clever to be able to do this.

I was 19 years old there but many ppl tell me I look only 12, lol.  I was once very slim too.



That is so cute DFG!

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You look so cute, DFG.  Did you still have the costume?

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That is quite a Stunning photo! -Do you still have the Phaser pistol?? :P

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That looks really good, DFG. :bounce_pinka:

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Cute hay, lol.  Yes to Angel I do still have the dress but even if I could get into which I can't, it's so old it is freying as it was made from silk curtain lining.

To XS4Xver yes I do still have the phaser some where in the house, lol.

I've thrown away a lot of trek stuff but there are still some things I keep, as a sort of time capsual to remind me of my prevous life before Lexx, lol.

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"Greetings, I amARCHER, emmissary of the Gorgons."  
(Call ENTERPRISE - we'll pick you up!!)
 
:witch1:. .
(February's Offerings - a 4 Hour Block is every Monday!)
02/05/2007 07:00 PM - FUSION
02/05/2007 08:00 PM - ROQUE PLANET
02/05/2007 09:00 PM - ACQUISITION
02/05/2007 10:00 PM - OASIS


02/12/2007 07:00 PM - DETAINED
02/12/2007 08:00 PM - VOX SOLA
02/12/2007 09:00 PM - FALLEN HERO
02/12/2007 10:00 PM - DESERT CROSSING


02/19/2007 07:00 PM - TWO DAYS AND TWO NIGHTS
02/19/2007 08:00 PM - SHOCKWAVE - PT 1
02/19/2007 09:00 PM - SHOCKWAVE - PT 2
02/19/2007 10:00 PM - CARBON CREEK


02/26/2007 07:00 PM - MINEFIELD
02/26/2007 08:00 PM - DEAD STOP
02/26/2007 09:00 PM - A NIGHT IN SICKBAY
02/26/2007 10:00 PM - MARAUDERS


:kngt: 

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I grew up virtually TV-less, so the first Trek I ever saw was the movies at a friend's place. I think I had never seen any sci-fi before, so it was quite the stunner :)

I can't say which is my fav yet, because I haven't managed to catch all of it on TV yet.

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i'm a trekkie to the core.

tho, i lean towards Ds9 as a fave/ This is me and my little sister being dorks


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Dragonflygurl wrote: Some of you may have already seen this before but some of you have not.  Yeah you can all have a good laugh.  Well I once was mad on classic trek and my auntie made me this dress, without a pattern, so she was very clever to be able to do this.

I was 19 years old there but many ppl tell me I look only 12, lol.  I was once very slim too.



What a great pic, DFG! It's just wonderful! Thanks for sharing it with us...

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See the new cast of the next Trek movie
http://www.mtv.com/photos/?fid=1571765&view=thumb

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Holy crap, Leonard Nimoy really got old!

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Oh I think he looks good for his age:)

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Here's an interesting article regarding Zachary Quinto and the new trek movie which starts filming in November.

http://www.vh1.com/movies/news/articles/1572601/20071023/story.jhtml?rsspartner=rssyahoo

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Angel wrote: Holy crap, Leonard Nimoy really got old!

I know, and it keeps happening to me also. Must be a button around here to stop that kind of thing.

:corny1:

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Hansuke wrote: Angel wrote: Holy crap, Leonard Nimoy really got old!

I know, and it keeps happening to me also. Must be a button around here to stop that kind of thing.

:corny1:


Our resident alchemist, Maya, is working on a potion to turn back the aging clock.  Once her eyebrows grow back she will continue.

:an30:

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Not to worry, as soon as the batwings dry out, I'll try the next formula. Hope that pewter cauldron doesn't explode on me again. Just call me Neville Longbottom, hehe.

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Here's some spy photo's of what Zachary Quinto looks like as young Spock. The ears are all wrong, oh well such is life.



and here's a link to a video. Some sort of church but I've read it's something to do with the Vulcan council.
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=227&task=videodirectlink&id=127

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wow the resemblace to Spock is rather striking! Quinto was an excellent choice for Spock.

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TKeil wrote: wow the resemblace to Spock is rather striking! Quinto was an excellent choice for Spock.
Well everybody thinks Zachary Quinto looks like Nimoy's Spock, younger version but I don't think so but I do think he is the right actor to play Spock. I just could not see Adrien Brody playing this character, as he was the other actor gunning for this part.

If you've seen ZQ in other tv show's apart from Heroe's that he's been in before he played Syler you understand what I mean.

I'm not that excited on this movie, as I've not been into trek for years, but I do look forward to seeing Mr Nimoy and Mr Quinto.

If your interested in the new trek movie, this is a good link to find out, http://www.trekmovie.com




Look again, a very young handsome Nimoy in the Spock years.  ZQ does not look this man.  Yes he handsome in his own way but don't look like each other.




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Offical trailer of the new Trek Movie that is still in production. It was shown along with the new movie called Cloverfield which is also made by the same director JJ Abhams
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xvfO66tbxVw&feature=related

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I saw that trailer--along w/ Cloverfield--last night.  That was the first I've heard of it.  Is this supposed to be a prequel, or are they rebooting the series ala Batman?

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It's a prequel, going back to the beginning with a young Spock and young Captain James T. Kirk. I suppose the old cast is really getting up there for them to do more sequels and since Scotty passed away it wouldn't be the same without the beam me up Scotty.

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http://www.empireonline.com/video/startrekxi/

The only original cast member to be in the movie is Leonard Nimoy as a older Spock. It's a time travel story of sorts and Romulan's are involued. And as you can see in my above post, Zachary Quinto is playing the younger version of Spock and
also Chris Pine is playing James T Kirk. They've got an english guy Simon Pegg to play Scotty.

Btw what was Cloverfield like?  Any good?

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I imagine that Simon Pegg will be either very good or horribly bad as Scotty - he simply has to play it as straight as poss, or else it will descend into parody (which he excels at  - he is Sean in Sean of the Dead, BTW)

unless - horrible thought - the whole film is tongue in cheek?  reassure me, somebody?

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Yes I know I have the dvd. Originally Paul McGillian was going for the part and he would of been right for that role and although it's not that important that the new cast look like the original actor Paul does have a remarkable likeness to James Doohan. Paul McGillian is in this movie but as different character.

I'm really pissed because Paramount have changed the date of the movie from December 2008 to May 2009. It sucks.

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It really sucks but now the new Trek Movie is not going be released December 2008 but now it's going be released May 2009:(

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Shame there's not a icon to delete a thread you've just try to post.  I've just tried to post a wedget and the damn thing will not show up yet it show's up on myspace page.   It must be different coding or something.  I really don't understand it.  And for some odd reason I can't get rid of this damn underscoring.

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I can't remember if this has been posted here or not.

http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php

Full episodes to watch.

Plus this for old shows, like Battlestar Galactica and Nanny and the Professor.

http://www.hulu.com/

 

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Whether you've been a fan of this show or still are you might find this link's video interesting. I did. Btw I own the vinyl record that parts of the chat is off.

It made me feel a bit sad, I don't really know why. I don't count my self as a big trek anymore but I did get to meet Gene back in 1984 and now he's no longer with us, it's sad.

Anyway here it is

http://www.treknationdoc.com/

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Here's some photos from the new movie ST11
I don't think I'm going like this movie.
Chris Pine as Captain Kirk and Carl Urban as Dr McCoy


A wider shot of the above. Zachary Quinto as Young Spock



Can't remember this actors name but he's Australian and the character he plays is Romulan Nero.


Bridge of the Enterprise, with the crew. That's Simon Pegg in the background, he's playing the part of Scotty.

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Why don't you think you're going to like the movie? I think Star Trek fans will just see it to see it, I don't know if I'll see it in the theater or not.

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Angel wrote: Why don't you think you're going to like the movie? I think Star Trek fans will just see it to see it, I don't know if I'll see it in the theater or not.

Well it's hard to explain really but imagine if they re did Lexx and it looked all different you'd not be very happy about it either.  It's one thing changing the view of the inside of the Enterprise but to put things on the bridge that's not suppose to be there is another thing.

Oh I'll just have to wait and see.

I was never into the newer version of Trek either, apart from Enterprise I liked that.

You've got remember I used to be a hard core fan of this show the original and I know everything about it like the back of my hand.

Most of this movie is set before the original tv series but I don't know how the writers have explain or got around about Nero Romulans because in the original 1966 tv series before the episode of Balance of Terror happened, no one in Starfleet knew what Romulans looked like.

Look at Dr Who that's been up dated but at least the Tardis looks the same.  I grew up with Dr Who too, in fact it's older then trek.

I was reminiscing last night about this America Dr Who fan I knew.  I used to send her stuff via another friend on Dr Who and she'd send me Classic Star Trek stuff.  I just thought it was funny because both of us were mad on each others shows and getting merchandise that was hard because we were not in the country that made the stuff.

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I guess this is why Zach is in London, if only I knew this yesterday.







Out with the Original and in with the New. I prefer the original of course.

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I have to say, Zach looks alot like the original Leonard Nimoy's version of Spock, even though both he and William Shatner were alot older than these two when they played their parts. As for the Kirk replacement,he looks like a little boy, and what's up with that elongated head?

Zack looks pretty good with those eyebrows waxed, too...:)
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Actually Leonard Nimoy was only 3 years older then the now Zachary Quinto. But they wanted younger actors because the story is about them all they all got together and also there's another story line running through it as well.

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This Friday 14th a new trailer to the next trek movie is going out along with the new James Bond movie but some lucky buggers have seen it already, so if you don't wish to know anything about this movie please don't read the below spoilers
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Posted on Tuesday November 11, 2008, 13:30 by James Dyer

Empire was privileged to be at a world first screening of footage from Star Trek this morning and any reservations we may have harboured over JJ Abrams’ reimagining of the franchise have been well and truly beamed away. What we saw was a medley of action, excitement, humour and a true reverence for the franchise that should both appease fans and suck in newcomers.

Abrams himself appeared to introduce four separate clips from the film, clearly a little apprehensive about airing his footage for the first time and so many months away from its May 2009 release.

“The thing about Star Trek is that I was never really a huge fan. When I was asked to do Star Trek, though, I found myself saying ‘yes’. I just thought it was the right thing. There have been 10 movies and about a million series but when the first series came out I always felt it was someone else’s show. I appreciated there was a promise of adventure but quite frankly that’s always what I felt it was: a promise of adventure. It might have been the resources they had doing a TV show – you know, a big adventure going to a cardboard planet, you know? So, the idea of doing this movie where it could feel legitimate and real despite all the stuff that non-fans might thing was silly, was really the challenge.

“I’ve seen Galaxy Quest, I’ve seen all the parodies but the key to doing this and making it feel real was a great cast. The cast is amazing and I’m going to show you a scene now where we meet Kirk as a young man. This shows how Kirk ends up joining this group called Starfleet.”

Warning: Spoilers Ahead!


Clip 1

The first clip begins in Iowa, on Earth. We see an American bar, much like one in the 20th century, except for the outfits and the occasional alien patron. Zoe Saldana’s Uhura weaves through the throng and goes up to the bar. She orders a round, including a fire tea, Budweiser classics and some Cardassian sunrises. In a sly nod to Abrams’ other work, the bartender recommends the Slusho mixer as well. Just as she finishes the order, a clearly intoxicated man two seats down says he’ll pick up the tab. She rebuffs him and the two engage in a lively bout of verbal sparring until he introduces himself “it’s Jim, Jim Kirk.”

Uhura, it seems, is studying Xeno linguistics and Kirk’s grasp of the subject indicates he’s more than what he seems. Uhura: “I’m impressed, for a moment I thought you were just a dumb hick who only has sex with farm animals.” Kirk: “not only.” A group of burly Starfleet cadets (including a surly looking Sulu) intervene to ask if the drunk ‘townie’ is making a nuisance of himself. Uhura says he is but she can handle herself. Unfortunately the cadets have something to prove and, after being summarily dismissed by an unimpressed Kirk, the leader lays him out.

What follows is a sizeable ruckus as Kirk fends off all four before being pounded nearly senseless on top of a table. As Sulu and the others continue to throw punches a shrill whistle penetrates the brawl. It’s Captain Pike, he glares at the wayward cadets before telling them to get out.

Cut to: Pike and Kirk sitting at a table, Kirk mopping the blood from his nose. Pike reads Kirk the riot act for wasting his life and being the only “genius-level repeat offender in the Midwest.” Pike served with Kirk’s father aboard the USS Kelvin and suggests that joining Starfleet academy would be a better use of Kirk’s time than brawling. “You understand what the federation is. It’s important, it’s a peace-keeping armada.” Kirk, he says, could be an officer in four years and have his own ship in eight. “Are we done?” the youth shoots back. “I’m done,” says Pike, and tells Kirk where the shuttle for recruits is leaving. “Your father was captain of a starship for 12 minutes. He saved 800 lives including your mother’s and yours. I dare you to do better.”

Cut to: Kirk on his motorbike driving to the shipyard where the Enterprise is being constructed (yes, on Earth).

Cut to: Kirk on his bike the next day arriving at the shuttledock. He throws the keys to his bike to an admiring tech and boards the shuttle. Catching Pike’s eye he says “Four years? I’ll do it in three.”

Clip 2

Abrams came back out to introduce the second clip, saying: “So Kirk joins Starfleet and immediately he’s there he gets in trouble. They all get assigned to ships but Kirk does not. However Bones finds out that a loophole where, if you’re treating a patient, the doctor’s allowed to bring the patient on board. So he injects Kirk to give him symptoms and make him look sick. This is the sequence where he first gets brought on board the Enterprise.”

Bones and Kirk come out of a turbolift and Kirk does not look at all good. They stagger into the medical bay, Kirk complaining all the way.

Cut to: The bridge where Captain Pike asks the “Russian whizkid” at the helm what his name is. It’s Ensign Chekov. Cue a comedy sequence where Chekov attempts to enter an authorization code into the computer, announcing “nine, five, wictor, wictor, two” in a perfect Walther Koenig exaggerated Russian accent and being denied. Chekov goes on to address the ship over the comm., stating that anomaly has been detected in the neutral zone, a lightning storm in space. A distress signal from the Vulcan (“wulcan”) high command has caused the Enterprise to go and investigate.

Cut to: Sick bay, Kirk hears the transmission and panics. “lightning storm?” He gets up but he’s had a reaction to the injection and his hands have swollen up. “Good God, man!” says Bones in a spot-on DeForest Kelley. Despite this, Kirk runs from the sick bay pursued by the anxious doctor. “We’re flying into a trap!” “Dammit, Jim, stand still!”. The pair run through the corridors before locating Uhura, who is more preoccupied with the size of Kirk’s swollen hands. As he tries to explain, his toungue goes numb, leading to much slurring and misunderstanding. While it sounds daft here, the comedy in the scene is pulled off well, showing that JJ has nailed the sense of humour he promised to bring to the film.

Cut to: the interior of Nero’s ship: dark, red and menacing. An officer reports: “Nero, seven federation ships are on their way.”

Cut to: Vulcan. A beam, emitted from Nero’s ship, bores into the planet’s surface. A lone figure looks out and survey’s the attack. It’s Winona Ryder as Spock’s mother.

Cut to: Exasperated, Kirk runs onto the bridge and shouts that they need to stop the ship as it’s a trap. “Vulcan is not experiencing a natural disaster, it’s being attacked by Romulans.” Pike all but has him dragged off the bridge and Spock’s instant animosity (it almost comes to blows between the two) indicates that, at this point at least, these two do not get on at all. Kirk ultimately breaks through though and explains that the same anomaly was spotted years before on the day of his birth, before a Romulan ship attacked the USS Kelvin. He goes on to say that the night before, 47 (yes forty seven!) Klingon Warbirds were destroyed by a single Romulan vessel. Uhura backs Kirk up and Pike gives the order: “shields up, red alert!”

The ship comes out of warp amid a sea of debris: there are broken hulls as far as the eye can see. This is what remains of the other ships sent on the ‘rescue mission’ To Vulcan. The Enterprise comes under attack.

Clip 3

Abrams: “So, Kirk later pisses of Spock and gets marooned. He lands on this planet and ends up meeting the older Spock. The two of them go to meet another character. A character played by Simon Pegg.” Pegg then came up to introduce this clip amid much gushing over his part in the film.

Kirk, along with Nimoy’s Spock are walking through an engineering structure in winter gear with snow still clinging to their garments. They walk up to a small alien standing next to a human. It’s Scotty.

Pegg’s begins to complain in his Scottish accent (flawless to the extent that it’s infinitely more believable than James Doohan’s atrocious burr ever was). Nimoy raises a Spock eyebrow “fascinating. You’re Montgomery Scott.” It turns out that Scotty has been in exile down here since he experimented with transporter technology and dematerialised the admiral’s dog. Pegg is clearly the bulk of the comic relief in the film but pulls it off without being ridiculous or embarrassing, which is no mean feat given the character’s heritage. “The Enterprise? I’d like to get my hands on her ample nacelles, if you’ll pardon the engineering parlance.”

Spock and Kirk need to be beamed on board the Enterprise, it seems, while it’s still at warp – an impossibility, they’re told. “the notion of transwarp beaming is like trying to hit a bullet with a smaller bullet while wearing a blindfold, riding a horse.” Scotty, however, invented the technique, only his present self has yet to make the necessary discovery. Spock helpfully fills in the gaps by providing the future Scotty’s formula.

Spock reveals to Kirk that he won’t be going with him. “that is not my destiny.” He instructs Kirk to never tell the younger Spock of his existence and that Kirk must expose the younger Spock (currently in command of the Enterprise) as being emotionally compromised so that he can assume command of the ship.

Spock: “To stop Nero, you alone must take command of your ship.”
Kirk: “How? Over your dead body?”
Spock: “Preferably not.”
Kirk steps into the transporter along with Scotty.
Kirk: “coming back in time, changing history, it’s cheating.”
Spock: “A trick I learned from an old friend.”

As the computer begins to energise, Spock raises his hand in salute. “Live long and prosper.”

Clip 4

Abrams: “The last scene is a scene earlier in the movie. The tether that comes down from Nero’s space ship drills into the planet and a bomb gets dropped into the planet to destroy it. This is a sequence where the good guys are space jumping down onto the drill to destroy it.”

Transporters are being jammed and so three crew members are instructed by Pike to jump from a shuttle and freefall to the platform. Kirk, Sulu and… Engineer Olsen are ordered to go. You can see where this is going, can’t you? Pike will pilot the shuttle and leaves Spock in command of the Enterprise, Kirk is shockingly promoted to first officer amid much protestation from the Vulcan.

Spock: “Captain, please, I apologise. The complexities of human pranks escape me.”
Pike: “It’s not a prank Spock, and I’m not the captain. You are.”

The three jumpers suit up in armoured suits before loading onto the chuttle.

Cut to: Bones amid a devastated sick bay, who is promoted to chief medical officer after his superior is killed in the attack.

Cut to: the shuttle.

Kirk to Engineer Olsen “You’ve got the charges?”
Olsen ( who is English): “Oh yeah, I can’t wait to kick some Roluman arse.” The man's even wearing a red shirt for God's sake!. You can all but see death leaning over his shoulder.

The shuttle departs and the three are jostled around in their seats.

Kirk to Sulu: “What kind of combat training do you have?”
Sulu: “Fencing.”

The three jump from the shuttle, being reminded that they can’t be beamed back until the drill is shut down. We see the three bodies free-falling through the atmosphere towards the platform, the huge drill arm flying past them as they plummet towards their destination. As they reach a certain height, Sulu and Kirk hit their chutes but Olsen decides to get in closer. He finally pulls the cord but it’s too late, he bounces off the platform, slides over the edge and is swung straight into the drilling beam and disintegrated.

Kirk hits the platform and nearly meets the same end before hitting a button on his harness. Instead of ejecting, the chute is sucked back into the pack on his back. Several Romulans emerge from hatches on the platform and a melee ensues, Kirk using his helmet as a makeshift bludgeon to keep them at bay.

Sulu is the next to land but his chute becomes caught and he can’t get free. He pulls out a steel handle, which extends into a katana blade. He cuts himself free and enters the fray. Far from the Sulu we remember, John Cho’s character is a fighter and lays into the Romulans, flourishing his blade and executing a series of kicks and somersaults.

Kirk isn’t faring so well and is hanging on to the edge of the platform while a Romulan tries to kick him off. Dispatching his own assailant by pushing him into a gout of flame, Sulu impales Kirk’s attacker and pulls him back onto the platform. That old bar room brawl has now definitively been put behind them.

Exclaiming that Olsen had the charges, Kirk picks up a discarded Romulan disruptor rifle and begins to unload it into the drill until the machine shudders to a standstill.

Cut to: Nero, seeing the drill has stopped, nevertheless orders the “red matter” dropped into the hole.

Cut to: The Enterprise. Chekov reports that nero is creating a singularity – a black hole – in the heart of Vulcan, which will destroy the planet. Spock jumps up and orders a planetwide evacuation before heading to the turbolift. The Vulcan council, including his parents, must be saved and Spock is going to get them.

Cut to: The platform, Sulu is swept over the edge and Kirk jumps after them. The Enterprise cannot lock onto the pair as they plummet towards the surface. On board the Enterprise, Chekov runs down to the transporter room and struggles to get a lock. Unsurprisingly he manages it with mere nanoseconds to spare, the pair dematerialising metres from the ground and appearing in a heap on the transporter room floor.

Sulu: “Thanks.”
Kirk: “No problem.”

And that was it. Four clips, some great sequences and action the likes of which the Trek franchise hasn’t seen since First Contact. There are a lot of Trek fans out there with reservations about Abrams’ vision for this film but this is one Trekkie who can’t wait to see the finished film.

Set course for May, Warp 9! Set phasers to thrill! ... or something.

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As a casual fan, I was--and still am--very much on the fence about the upcoming Trek flick.  It could be great, or it could crash and burn hard.  That said, has anyone else out there taken a glance at Star Trek: Countdown, the four part prequel comic that they've been releasing in installments for the past couple months?  To put it in a single word: fascinating.

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Yeah I've seen it at trekmovie.com and trekcore but I've not actually seen a copy to hand. I've not seen it in the shops I mean.

I feel the same too, I'm in half a mind about it too. At the end of the day, the original series and cast will always be my favorite whether the new one is good or not.

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The individual issues apparently sold out in record time.  I've read the first three by way of a friend, who was basically trying to shake me out of my ambivalence.  The final issue comes out later this week, and I believe next week the entire thing will be available in a single issue trade paperback.

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Baby Spock is so cute


ZQ's Spock with Prime Spock/LN


Young Spock thinking Spocks Brain, I hope Sylar not after it, lol

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Ok, I got the first 2 ST posters in this past week. One is a full face of Zach as Spock and the other is the Capt Kirk guy, who I have no idea of his name. The trailer is FUCKING AWESOME !!  I had to add it to 3 movies being shown this week and every time it's on the screen, people just gasp at the killer SFX.

Three Star Trek clubs have already called us and asked if they could come in a group and dress up for the show. We said 'HELL TO THE  YEAH !'

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I was offered a poster of Zach as Spock but I said did not want it. Yeah there's now four different trailers. I've been following this movie since 2006 you know.

Chris Pine is the actor that plays Kirk.

I even have a track of music from the movie that I up loaded from trekcore.com.

I check live journal, Zach's official site and also other places when I'm on-line to see the news.

They had a secret showing of it in Auston Texas before the Australian Premiere in Sydney Opera house.

The cast come to London on the 20th and I can't go:(

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MAJOR SPOILER BELOW...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



 



The once and future Spock

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MAJOR SPOILER ABOVE!

 

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That's not a spoiler Bilbo.

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I didn't figure it was (seeing as doddering old 24th century Spock is the main character in the Countdown comic, along with a couple of TNG characters), but figured I'd err on the side of caution in case anyone was out of the loop.  If I were the studio honcho in charge, I would have tried to keep it a secret.

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The Star Trek scenes that never made the movie

THE new Star Trek has certainly set its phasers to stun at the box office, so far pulling in $371million worldwide and winning critical acclaim as one of the best-ever revamps of a franchise.
On the official review compilation site Rotten Tomatoes, the prequel has earned an exceptional rating of 95 per cent, one per cent higher than that of Batman blockbuster The Dark Knight.

Directed by Lost creator J.J. Abrams and written by Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman (who, ironically, also penned the successful but critically-savaged Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen), it has reignited the series and a sequel is already being developed.

But the film we saw on screen was not always intended to be that way.

As with any movie, earlier drafts of the script included different ideas, variations of scenes and material that ended up being omitted from the released version.

A draft version of the screenplay has now leaked out with many different ideas in it that never made the final cut. If you have not seen the movie, please be aware that what follows does contain spoilers. Don't say you weren't warned.

According to TNMC, this earlier 'shooting draft' features Spock's birth, a sequence with Klingons and more scenes of young Kirk's upbringing, none of which made the final cut.
While the birth of Spock and the inclusion of Klingons were not necessary, I feel it might have been nice to flesh out the younger years of Kirk for a few more minutes, rather than simply including a joyriding sequence in a sports car.

The draft also includes a line of dialogue that addresses the implausibility of Kirk meeting the older Spock on the ice planet. Spock says destiny is bringing them together and that their fates are intertwined, as the universe tries to correct itself after an alternative reality is caused by the black hole. This simple piece of dialogue would certainly have improved the story and smoothed out this potential plothole, which has been raised by many viewers.

Before Nero's ship begins drilling into Earth, the site says the earlier draft depicts Nero's second in command Ayel threatening mutiny, saying the destruction of Vulcan was sufficient revenge and that the crew want to return to Romulus. But Nero refuses to turn back and kills Ayel, saying he will not return until everyone involved in the destruction of Romulus is punished. In the movie Ayel does not die and continues to be involved in the film's events. The earlier scene does give more depth to Nero, but is probably not essential to the movie.

And the scene in which young Spock (Zachary Quinto) and old Spock (Leonard Nimoy) meet at the end of the film plays out differently.


In the version released in cinemas, Spock encounters his older version (called Spock Prime in the screenplay) in a hangar and discovers that Ambassador Spock is departing to help establish a new colony for the surviving Vulcans.

Quinto's Spock says he wants to leave Starfleet and help set up the colony but Ambassador Spock says younger Spock and Kirk need each other and so younger Spock remains in Starfleet, becoming first officer under Kirk's command.

But in the script, Nimoy's version hands Quinto's Spock a locket that contains a holographic video of William Shatner's Kirk singing happy birthday to older Spock and congratulating him on becoming an ambassador.

In the message, older Kirk says he and Spock should get back together one more time with a starship and just explore. This instead provides the motivation for the young Spock to stay behind with the young Kirk.

TNMC script reviewer Harry Barber says: "It's a nice idea but I can see any number of reasons it was cut like pacing, being overly sentimental, Shatner not being interested or simply recognising that by this point in the movie this new version of old favorites have earned the right to stand on their own.
Some of the extra scenes and alternative takes might feature on the DVD but Barber adds: "It's possible that some of this stuff was never filmed, so this might be the only way to know they once existed.

"I mean no disrespect to [writers] Kurtzman and Orci. Scripts evolve steadily until they are filmed, where more changes occur and again in editing, when even more changes can be made. It's just the process.

"I actually think Star Trek is their best work to date. They wrote a fine script and through the production process that was refined into a finished film that is highly entertaining. My only intention here is to give people a little peek behind the curtain."

I find that strange that they left bits and out re-wrote it because at the time of production there was a writers strike. And it was said that nothing can be change because it is not the done thing to do so and they should all support the strikers.  Just goes to show  you that's complete crap then.



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It's interesting to see though how things could have been different. Thanks for posting it, DFG.

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I loved Voyager it was part of my daily ritual, I think it is more friendly to a broader audience and easier to watch than the others.

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I never liked Voy much.
I hate Janeway with a passion. I dislike Kirk but my dislike for Kirk is nothing compared to that hatred I feel towards Janeway...:-)
And I never really cared much about the rest of the crew either. Holodoc is probably the only likable character on board (I'm - more or less - a heterosexual female, so 7 of 9 doesn't really do it for me).

I'm totally a TNG fan, I kinda liked DS9 and I do not mind watching TOS... But Voy was just... Eww.

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TNG was pretty good if you took the time to notice just how hard Picard actually was... The man was just a walking bad temper waiting for an excuse to eject a torpedo into an aliens face. Great guy!

My only real issue with Voy is how every episode is solved by doing something with the warpcore. :P that and the annoying alien cook I want to set Kai upon. that forehead was just stupid.

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Awesome! TNG re-run on one of the major Czech TV channels...!
I just love Stewart and Spiner's prominent noses.
I think I'll even tolerate Wesley Crusher with relative ease.
Oh, the nostalgia.
Yay! :2567:

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Cesare wrote:
Awesome! TNG re-run on one of the major Czech TV channels...!
I just love Stewart and Spiner's prominent noses.
I think I'll even tolerate Wesley Crusher with relative ease.
Oh, the nostalgia.
Yay! :2567:


And may I say - the older I get, the more I like Klingons.

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I love the Klingons. There's something to be said about a people who live for their honor.

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Abby1964 wrote: I love the Klingons. There's something to be said about a people who live for their honor.

So much is true Abby, but I think as a species the Klingons were not so universally true to their self-representation (as is so common everywhere) than they would have liked others to know.

Indeed, though they were treated most sympathetically throughout most of TNG due to the particular focus on Worf's good character, I can think of examples where the species was shown to be just as capable of duplicity and cowardice as any other, and in Enterprise - from what little I've seen of the later series - I think perhaps the Klingons were the least favorably treated of them all.

In the original series, the Klingons were often shown capable of a degree of buffoonery due to their focus on pride, though I remember my favorite episode is when a malignant energy being invades the Enterprise and a Klingon vessel and in its quest to feed off hatred and anger contrives to have the groups fighting against each other with swords: the Klingon captain is able to overcome his wont and follow Kirk's logic and they end up linking arms and laughing at the creature to force its depart.

In TOS - which aired during the Cold War - I believe the Klingons were analogues for the communist Chinese and Soviets, even appearing to be red- or yellow- faced at times, perhaps depending on current events of the time.

One last thing, I can't remember a single episode of Voyager, but I do remember...


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For me, ST is TNG.
That's what I grew up with. Plus, TNG had the hottest (and the most likeable) ST captain, the awesomest crew (even awesomer than DS9), Q - and that profound "culturological" streak that I sooo love about it.
As far as I am concerned, TNG is what really counts, Klingon-wise.

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I think a lot of what we saw was more that the 'bad' Klingons got the press. Most of the klingons we saw were usually the schemers and connivers not the true representation of the culture, just the bad elements. I have read a lot of the Star Trek Books and some of them went more deeply into the culture than the small glimpses that you got on the show, and Worf was more of an accurate representation of the culture than the Duras sisters.

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Interesting article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon that fleshes out what we've been discussing - including corroborating my long-held supposition about them being analogues for communists in the early series.

As described in the article, the Klingons underwent a bit of a metamorphosis - both in appearance and character - through the years, but left out is an account of how they were treated in the last series.

Interesting that just when Enterprise was being created - and the U.S. was beginning to engage enemies in the "War on Terror" (both real and imagined, regrettably) - that the Klingons reverted back to their sinister Cold War incarnation; and yet sensibly too, in that it fit the chronological sequence of the shows.

Could it be posited that the Klingon encounter with the Federation civilized them? Quite thin indeed!

None of this was covered in the Wikipedia article, which seems like it might need an update...

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These ST analogies and allegories are quite blatantly obvious, esp. in TOS.
ST has always been pretty responsive to the political situation. Can't quite compete with Stargate in terms of straightforward US military propaganda, but that element *is* pretty profound in much of the ST franchise, methinks.

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Yes, I always felt it was somewhat obvious, though I never in the past found anyone to agree; mind you this was in the time before the internet and I didn't bring it up amongst a large group of devoted Trekkies. One episode in particular crystalized it in my mind: in the end Kirk recognizes a garbled version of the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance to solve the crew's dilemma.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Omega_Glory


In the wiki article, I was surprised to see this allegory reported not to have been introduced by Gene Rodenberry himself - who being a former LA police officer I attributed the show's martial tendencies to - but one of the writers. That said, Star Trek TOS was ground breaking in having minorities and women in positions of some authority, and TNG took on an almost comically un-militaristic tone at times when nothing would get decided on the bridge except after long debate and consensus.

(Also in the article, the name "Klingon" derived from Rodenberry's former partner on the force, Lt. Clingan.)

Stargate has a more obvious military tone, but I remember even the show Farscape at the time exhibiting signs of a similar leaning in regard to current events, such as when the torture of captives was depicted as being a particularly adroit manner of getting valueable intelligence; a process which has more than once borne rotten fruit in the real world.

 

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Speaking of other shows that parallel current events I think Babylon 5 deserves a mention in being a bit more realistic in its depictions than ST Or Stargate.

Babylon 5 presented the political conflict but the characters were fallible. No single group is depicted as completely good or completely evil.

I find it a bit more believable than either Trek or Gate because every decision does not 'work out in the end' and there are consequences to the decisions made. Bad choices bring bad consequences and the characters must deal with the consequences that they caused.

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B5 was an excellent series but if I was given only one choice to watch that over the original trek, I'd watch the original trek.

And as for SG1 it is a rip off of ST in many ways.

I preferred SG:Alantis, even though that is an off short of SG1.

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B5 was a good show and the characters were more 'human'. They had prejudices and issues and everything didn't just end up perfect 60 minutes later. The story arc worked well from the beginning through to the end. Okay the final episode sucked, I wasn't very impressed with how it ended. It was a let down but getting to the ending was very good. Especially watching the characters deal with the results of decisions they have made in previous episodes or even previous seasons. It all tied together very well.

Although I like Star trek my peeve is that every issue gets resolved with a 'happy' ending. No matter what crisis they faced it was solved in 60 minutes and left you with the impression that everyone was good with the solution.  things that they left screwed up never came back to bite them on the ass.  Stargate was even worse because of the 'our way is the right way' mentality behind the thinking. It came across as a bit intolerant.

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Good points. With regard to Star Trek TOS though, remember it was made during a time when there was a budding sense of hopefulness amid the terror of nuclear armageddon, and this was reflected in the scripts; even so, though I can't name the episode, I think there was one where the Prime Directive (non-interference) had been violated and the viewer was left feeling that the crew made the best of a bad situation.

Star Trek TNG, on the other hand, I think had more dark qualities at times, where lasting emotional wounds were incurred - such as in Picard was rescued from the Borg. Also I remember an episode of TNG where a young Cardassian member of the crew ended up dead following her voluteering for a secret mission.

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Don't mind me, just coughing an errant katra back into a dormant thread.

If you like Trek, irreverence and a generous dash of foaming anti-Wesley hostility, swing by a site called SFDebris.com.  This guy specializes in video reviews that are equal parts hilarious, insightful, unabashedly geeky and just downright fun.  He made his bones posting reviews on Youtube before striking out on his own, and while Trek, in all its various incarnations, is his primary focus, he's since branched off and tackled other notable--and not so notable--sci-fi films and series.  Worth your time if you've got some to kill.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/27/arts/television/leonard-nimoy-spock-of-star-trek-dies-at-83.html?_r=0

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Hmm...

http://www.startrek.com/article/new-star-trek-series-premieres-january-2017

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Bilbo67 wrote:
Hmm...

http://www.startrek.com/article/new-star-trek-series-premieres-january-2017


Kewl! I've always hoped they'd do another series rather than just movies.

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Can't say I disapprove of this:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/26/star-trek-cbs-reboot-nicholas-meyer


Dude already saved the franchise twice. Holding out for the hat trick...

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Bilbo67 wrote:
Can't say I disapprove of this:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/26/star-trek-cbs-reboot-nicholas-meyer


Dude already saved the franchise twice. Holding out for the hat trick...


I really hope they'll bring it to regular television, rather than just digital subscription, been aching for a new series.

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Fingers crossed, although considering they seem to want to leverage it as a tentpole marketing hook, I wouldn't cross 'em too hard.

Early scuttlebutt has it that it's set in the "prime" universe and that the seasons might be self-contained, and scattered throughout the timeline.

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Apparently it's set about a decade or so prior to Kirk's time (which should technically mean that Pike and Spock are tooling around on the Enterprise.) Can't say I'm thrilled that they went the prequel route, but it's Nicholas Meyer tackling Trek, so it's impossible not to give it the benefit of the doubt.

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Here's a new spin on the original Star Trek

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/145215841X/ref=smi_www_rco2_go_smi_2609328962?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=145215841X&ie=UTF8&linkCode=xm2&tag=healhand-20

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Oh yes I've seen that. To boldly meow where no cat has been before.

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This looks real fun, it's called Unbelievable!!!!!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2180583/videoplayer/vi2881271321?ref_=tt_ov_vi



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